Stored procedures can do some pretty scary/nasty things. 
Check out:
http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.php/1441251
of special interest is the xp_regdeletekey stored proceure

David Livingston
Network Admin
214-871-9117
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 3 Tier Security

Yes, this is much more secure than most people.

I would start with securing the cf/webserver. A correctly secured
webserver
is very hard to hack into.

Here is an idea.  If you restrict the SQL user account, that CF is
connecting to your SQL server with, to only have right to run stored
procedures, then if the CF server box is compromised the hacker can only
run
stored procedures.

This may not solve all of you "what if s" but, it will stop a hacker
from
doing a Drop table...

Anyone have thoughts on if that is a good idea / bad idea?

Mark W. Breneman
-Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
-Network / Web Server Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

-----Original Message-----
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 3 Tier Security


How about a Class 2 force field around the servers....

heh...

The way u have it set up now is waaaay more secure than most people have
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: 3 Tier Security


I am hoping someone can help me out with this.  Maybe I just can't see
how
it would work......but anyways we have apps that are going to be
accessible
outside our firewall.  We currently have a set-up like this.

Webserver is in dmz with the  ports http/https accessible to the outside
world.  CF code is kept on this server.  Database is completely inside
the
firewall.  The firewall is configured to only allow communitcation from
the
webserver IP to the SQL IP over a sql port.  There are voices around
here
that want to see a 3rd layer or an app server inbetween.  I can't
visualize
how this would work?  I think I may just need someone to help me
visualize
it.  Anyways taking into consideration that the webserver software is
all
patched up and tighened down, the code has been analized to ensure that
there are no holes will adding the extra layer really do any good?

Thanks

Mike




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