How do you sort the white noise from the actual data Matt except by giving users with 
issues a clearly defined avenue to getting their issues addressed?

Jesse Noller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Macromedia Server Development

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:13 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> 
> That is all great in theory, but you need to take into account the user
> in question. While some of the people complaining may be the only ones
> who have mentioned the problem so far, they may be representing many
> more users e.g. someone who hosts CFMX applications.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> 888-408-0900 x901
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:03 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> >
> > But Matt, you skipped over the part where I mentioned trends,
> firestorms,
> > and escalation through support.
> >
> > If you have 1 user, having a problem, that does not contact support,
> the
> > likelihood of the problem being looked at, much less resolved, is
> minimal.
> >
> > Then, you have 50 users, all having the same issue, and 10 of them
> contact
> > support. 10 of them have the issues properly escalated and examined,
> and
> > we see that a total of 50 users are seeing it.
> >
> > Bam! Problem will more than likely get fixed.
> >
> > On the flip side, if you have 1 user, who has an easily reproducible
> case,
> > that calls tech support, and gets it escalated, the chances of it
> getting
> > addressed and fixed are increased 100 fold.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jesse Noller
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Macromedia Server Development
> > Unix/Linux "special guy"
> >
> > "But I neeeeed tacos! I need them or I will
> > explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:25 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> > >
> > > >         While Matt just sent a message decrying public communication
> > > between
> > > > those of us at Macromedia and the community, how can we possibly
> work
> > > on
> > > > bugs and issues that are reduced to "stuff is broken".
> > > >
> > > The above is right in line with what I am talking about. Matt
> complains
> > > about communication and someone responds from Macromedia with a
> > > situation that they couldn't possibly respond to. Then they say,
> "Look
> > > at what we have to deal with, how can we possibly respond to this?"
> > >
> > > You can't and I don't expect to you. What I expect a response on is
> when
> > > I provide a thorough description of the problem including test code
> to
> > > reproduce it. And I don't mean a response simply agreeing that I
> found a
> > > bug. I am talking about feedback as to when the problem is hoped to
> be
> > > resolved. Not a date mind you, just something along the lines of
> hoping
> > > to have it resolved in x number of months.
> > >
> > > I also expect a response when I ask questions like "Why does Flash
> > > Remoting in CFMX Enterprise not work with Java?"
> > >
> > > -Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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