Uhm.. I've received this communication in error.
;) | -----Original Message----- | From: Larry Juncker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:43 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | | Yes Emmet, that is correct and I am still on CF5 with this | issue. I forgot to mention that earlier. | | | Larry Juncker | Senior Cold fusion Developer | Heartland Communications Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (515) 574-2122 | | CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE | The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for | the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. | This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, | confidential and/or personal. If the reader of this message | is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent | responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are | hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or | copying of this communication is prohibited. | | If you have received this communication in error, please | notify us at the e-mail listed above. | | -----Original Message----- | From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:08 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | | That statement on security low was a little vague. For | clarification its actually the application protection should | be set to Low(IIS Process). Do this for each web site. | Properties/home directory - Application Protection in IIS. | This should solve your problem, and its actually a win2000 | problem, although I'm sure there's a workaround macromedia | could have done. | | Emmet | | -----Original Message----- | From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:42 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | Well, if that's the case, I'd be shocked. IIS logs in on | it's own to the system, and should have full control over all | the files that it has to read and deliver. It doesn't | require secondary permissions. The thread that pulls the | page (initiated by the connection) does. But that's | before-the-fact. The fact that IIS would require a lowering | of security status is a bit disquieting. And certainly so if | it's really just for CFMX. | | That would be a security THREAT, not a solution. (Or am I just being | paranoid?) | | Really.. The issue is most likely simple. If someone from MM | simply watched, grabbed logs from, poked and prodded a dead | server (any of ours), they'd most likely find the issue | pretty quickly, I have no doubt. | | And going back to CF5 is beginning to look like the solution | for now. Unfortunately that means people using it's more | powerful features (like James Johnson <howdy Jim!>) would now | have to go backwards. But it may be our only hope at this point. | | For the record.. The server in question has died (and | restarted itself) 11 times since this thread started at 6am | this morning. Always running itself into oblivion, then | having to restart. | | The logs look like a jumble of gobbledy-gook from one of my | old Fortran-printing days. Most of which means nothing to | me. Most of it is duplicated in several log files. | | Anyway.. | | | | | -----Original Message----- | | From: Larry Juncker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:12 AM | | To: CF-Talk | | Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | | | | | I have found on our servers, that when this happens,( the | 404 errors | | on pages that were working just fine) we have to go into | IIS and set | | the security permissions to low on the folder that the file | is in and | | then they work again... | | | | It seems to me that this problem is a security problem with Windows | | 200 server and not CF. | | | | Has anyone else found this to be true? | | | | Curious..... | | | | Larry Juncker | | Senior Cold fusion Developer | | Heartland Communications Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | (515) 574-2122 | | | | CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE | | The information contained in this e-mail is intended only | for the use | | of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This | e-mail may | | contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or | personal. | | If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the | | employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended | | recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, | | distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. | | | | If you have received this communication in error, please | notify us at | | the e-mail listed above. | | | | -----Original Message----- | | From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:20 AM | | To: CF-Talk | | Subject: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | | | | | Well, as amazing as it is for me to say, I'm seriously considering | | taking CF support away from our customers, and selling | those accounts | | that use it. With the consistant rash of unresponsive CF service | | problems (that require many restarts of IIS/CF -- and then | finally a | | complete server restart), to the numerous problems trying | to educate | | users on locking their vars... it's really become more of a | pain than | | it's worth. | | | | A server that has been running quite well for approximately | a month, | | has suddenly started spiraling out of control, with the only option | | being a manual restart of the CF server. IIS is running, | and serves | | HTML pages file.. but CFM pages get 404'd. | | | | We've uninstalled and reinstalled connectors, run the | updaters.. etc.. | | etc.. etc. It's just getting old having to fight this every day. | | | | CF didn't used to be like this! It had it's problems, to be sure. | | But it was, for the vast majority of the time, stable. | Now, it seems | | that every time we turn around, or if one of our clients | who runs CF | | doesn't code something exactly correct... the server decides to go | | nutz and crash. (Well.. The CF and IIS services crash | anyway.) This | | is crazy. ASP doesn't do this! (gulp) | | | | Now, when I talk to Macromedia about serious debugging to find the | | problems -- they say "$$$$$$". Uhm... Didn't we just pay | thousands to | | get this thing on our server so that we can support the CF | program and | | propogate it's use in the marketplace? And now we have to | pay MORE to | | debug a problem that is clearly within CF?? Not to mention | the fact | | that the cost in man-hours and down time, lost clients | (we've a had a | | few who have jumped ship because the services were not | | stable). It's really quite tiring now.. and COMPLETELY frustrating. | | | | I've SCOURED the KB's. Left messages in all the forums, | lists, etc. | | All are the same patches/fixes.. None of them work. | | | | This is total frustrating. | | | | </ventoff> | | | | | | | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
