> however they will mostly be real-time calcs,
> dealing with potentially large datasets (10's of thousands) so speed and
> scalability are important factors,

Good point - I really don't know enough about what you are doing to say for
sure, but I can tell you that we do some hard core real-time calcualtions
with Java in CF5 and MX and are very pleased with the results.

Good luck,
Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Wondering about good languages for financial math
processing


>> I've heard that Java isn't really suited for mathematical work either
>
>I would beg to differ on that, but it does depends on what you are doing.
>There is no doubt that C/C++ is faster, and you can do things like embed
>assembly to get even faster; however, business calculations are rarely that
>complicated.
>
>I am a big proponent for Java for several reasons, I wont bother you with
>all of them but here are a few:
>       1. Integrates well with CF
>               1.5 CF uses JDBC java can use JDBC...
>       2. You don't have to handle memory stuff as much
>       3. It's a bit easier to learn than C++
>       4. I like coffee.

Thanks Rob. Like I say, it was only a student who told me about Java's
supposed unsuitability. I gotta admit that I'd rather invest time learning
Java as opposed to C++ for the very reason that Java skills are maybe more
in tune with CF than ever.

I realise that most of the calculations I am using wont be overtly processor
intensive as standalone calcs, however they will mostly be real-time calcs,
dealing with potentially large datasets (10's of thousands) so speed and
scalability are important factors, hence my tendency to look towards C++.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: jon roig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Wondering about good languages for financial math
processing


I don't have a ton of direct experience with this, but anecdotally I've
heard that perl is quite good it this. (It's used for a ton of genetic
modeling and that sort of thing). Of course, your mileage may vary... but it
might be worth checking out a scripting language rather than trying to dig
into c++.

        -- jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Wondering about good languages for financial math processing


Hi all,

In the past I've been piggy backing on Excel via COM in order to do some
calculations as ColdFusion isn't the best of tools for performing
mathematical routines. Now, this is not ideal either as it requires Excel to
be installed on the server and takes up valuable processing time.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to any good languages suited for
mathematical processing? Preferably with the ability to connect or extract
results easily. I've heard that Java isn't really suited for mathematical
work either [1]. Perhaps C++ would do the job? I want to avoid COM at this
stage considering:

a) CFMX doesnt work too well with COM now;
b) COM is becoming an obsolete technology with MS pushing .Net and web
services instead.

TIA,
Dave

[1] I was told by a friend studying for his MSc Comp Sci. so I could be
completely wrong in my presumptions about Java being unsuited for
mathematical work.





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