Helps to live in a state with very strong 'right to work' laws. I don't sweat it as long as I'm demonstrating functionality I was solely responsible for creating. Now if I was working off a clear functionality spec from a client, then I tend not to show that code ;).
But like I said, enter at your own risk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Weaver, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:42 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for > ColdFusion? > > Yeah, this is a tough issue. Personally, I can't really "show" anything I > have done internally because it is all protected by strict NDA and > copyright. > > Screen shots and descriptions that are too detailed are technically > forbidden by some NDAs. > > It is a very delicate topic, easy to get yourself sued. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:33 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for > ColdFusion? > > > Maybe I take the wrong approach, but I keep the code and test data and > run it on my laptop for interviews. =) I have to skirt a few things > that would be a clear breach of non-disclosure, but in general you can > demo key components with minor tweaking to avoid confidentiality issues. > > Here are some samples of what I can do... *click* *click*. > > For resume's I speak in the abstract and indicate I can share a > portfolio at an interview. > > > Trey Rouse > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:18 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market > for > > ColdFusion? > > > > Yea, I should get into the habbit of taking screen captures. :) > > > > > Isaac, > > > > > In fact, I heard Ben F. say at a conference last fall that "most" CF > is > > > deployed "inside" the company firewall. > > > > > -mk > > > > > P.S. - You'll have to settle for screen shots for your resume'... > either > > > that or use the client as a reference <g>. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:01 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market > for > > > ColdFusion? > > > > > > > You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people " all my work > is > > > behind > > > someone else's corporate firewall, but if you could see it, boy > would it > > > be > > > impressive!" ... wtf? How am I supposed to write a resume this way? > > > > > > > S. Isaac Dealey > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > > > www.turnkey.to > > > 954-776-0046 > > > > >> Agreed, there are several sites I have built that no one outside > the > > >> client will ever see. This makes it difficult to create a > portfolio, > > but > > >> I'm sure there are as many "hidden" sites in CF as there are public > > >> sites, if not more. > > > > >> Joshua Miller > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:23 PM > > >> To: CF-Talk > > >> Subject: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market > for > > >> ColdFusion? > > > > > > >> Vernon, there are probably many internal apps being developed on CF > > that > > >> can never be viewed from the public Internet. We are working on > three > > >> major ones at present, two for Sempra Energy and one for Ernst and > > >> Young. These are large applications being created to replace > legacy > > >> ones. I am sure there must be other such things going on out > there. > > > > >> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO > > >> Webapper > > >> http://www.webapper.com > > >> Downey CA Office > > >> 562.243.6255 > > >> AIM - webappermb > > > > >> "Webapper - Making the NET work" > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:25 PM > > >> To: CF-Talk > > >> Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion? > > > > > > >>>The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this > > >> on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this. > > > > >> Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is > > >> around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're > > >> really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The > overall > > >> installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial > list > > >> of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing: > > >> http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/ > > > > >> Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server > world, > > >> the list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The > following > > >> are a few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me: > > > > >> http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/ > > >> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid=19&languageid=1 > > >> http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre > > >> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, > some > > >> just plain HTML) http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com > > > > >> We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX > and > > >> are in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us > when > > >> they go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know > of > > >> too! > > > > >> In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is > expanding > > the > > >> CF > > >> market: > > > > >> *Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well > as > > >> makes CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the > > benefits > > >> of deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD) > offered > > >> by CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to > the > > >> Java platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps > (or > > >> their CF developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging > release > > of > > >> CF for some, but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community > will > > >> enjoy this huge leap forward. > > > > >> *We're working to deliver the information developers need to help > them > > >> be successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings: > > >> www.macromedia.com/desdev > > > > >> *We're tappiing into new markets for CF: > > > > >> -With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on > to > > >> CF. While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking > to > > CF > > >> readily because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD > capabilities. > > > > >> -Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm > not > > >> trying to debate the CFStudio/HS+ vs. Dreamweaver issue for CFers. > > >> Dreamweaver is ~80% of the HTML editor market, and these folks are > > >> moving into the dynamic application/web app development space in > > droves. > > >> Dreamweaver MX makes their entry into the CF arena a snap with its > > built > > >> in server behaviors that cover the most basic stuff, and CF's > shorter > > >> learning curve and tagged based syntax makes CF a very attractive > for > > >> these new application developers. > > > > >> *We've delivered innovative products that are more integrated and > work > > >> more smoothly with each other than ever before, offering "one-stop" > > >> shopping for industry leading technologies. This also means that we > can > > >> deliver well integrated technologies, and better information for > those > > >> who are integrating these various technologies. But we've also > worked > > to > > >> remain somewhat agnostic with many of these innovations; many > (most) of > > >> these innovations integrate with 3rd party products/platforms. > > > > >> Individually, one may not be positioned to take advantage of > everything > > >> we offer surrounding CF, but we see businesses moving into these > areas > > >> as they begin to plan and implement new projects, and bring > additional > > >> technologies & skills into their shops. > > > > >> It's been said Macromedia should concentrate on CF improvements and > > >> fixes and forget everything else, but our efforts across the board > are > > >> not mutually exclusive. We've already released one CFMX updater, > and > > >> another is fortcoming. > > > > >> Macromedia is fully behind ColdFusion and ColdFusion developers. > Yes, > > >> there is definately room for improvement, as is evidenced by some > of > > the > > >> more lively discussion on this list recently. But we do listen to > and > > >> incorporate to the community's feedback, while we continue to > innovate. > > >> Unfortunately, sometimes we can't talk about everything happening, > even > > >> in the face of > > >> (emerging) competition. But that shouldn't be misread as an > indication > > >> that nothing is happening behind the scenes. > > > > >> I personally think the economy has stifled some of the payoff from > > >> Macromedia's efforts, it's stifled just about everything involving > > >> economics! But eventually you will start to see these efforts start > to > > >> pay off for ColdFusion and CF developers. > > > > >> Nay-sayers can say spout gloom and doom if they will, but CF is on > the > > >> way up. We're just gettin' started! > > > > >> Vernon Viehe > > >> ColdFusion Community Manager > > >> Developer Relations > > >> Macromedia, Inc. > > >> Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > >> -------------------- > > >> Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > Architecting a > > >> New Internet Experience Register today at > > >> www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
