> Java as the open platform? Java is a platform supported by multiple
> vendors, yes, but I don't believe this qualifies it as open (despite
> what Sun's marketing department might say).
>
Why not? The various Java specifications are publicly available. Just
because Sun created its own organization (JCP) instead of using an
established standards body doesn't make Java any less open. Further,
through the Apache Foundation's hard work, open source implementations
of the Java specifications can now be certified through JCP.

> C# and the CLI, on the other
> hand, have been ratified by the ECMA. Whether or not that's a good
thing
> is up for debate, but I think it does exhibit a greater degree of
> "openness."
>
Maybe if you are comparing C# and the CLI to Java and the JVM. However,
when you compare J2EE to .NET things are quite a bit different. Things
like VB.NET and ASP.NET aren't open in any way. Nothing in the .NET
class hierarchy is open. Worse still, much of what isn't open is
protected by Microsoft patents, so clean room implementations are on
shaky ground at best.
 
-Matt

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