Sure Oracle has lots of extras...  Undoubtedly... that's also part of 
the problem... it is expensive, expensive to maintain, expensive to run 
machines for, etc.

Very few people can stomach the cost. Only the dotcomer suiciders with 
other folks money and the fortune 500 or less..

Paris Lundis
Founder
Areaindex, L.L.C.
http://www.areaindex.com
http://www.pubcrawler.com
412-292-3135
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:52:44 -0700
Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise

> Well, I could certainly use Oracle where I am now.  In a serious way.
>  There's no way mySQL even comes close to what our team needs.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paris Lundis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, January 13, 2003 5:23 pm
> Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise
> 
> > Oh no I agree, more features = more bloat...
> > 
> > But how often do you see a car comparison and see a Porsche 
> > (100k+$) 
> > and a VW (20k) head-on dead heat race to the end line?
> > 
> > It's truly encouraging to see open source and home brewed stuff 
> > pulling 
> > serious load... 
> > 
> > As far as I am concerned Oracle is a big hunk of overpriced (read 
> > too 
> > dam* expensive) crud... sure if you are a bank or some other 
> > oversized 
> > monstrosity it is for you... all 5% of the total businesses if 
> > even 
> > that...
> > 
> > Anyway... MySQL is just marvelous from here... fast, small, easy 
> > to 
> > manage... great cost - even if you are paying / licensing for
> real...
> > 
> > Just so fed up... remember Oracle slobs in a previous life saying 
> > oh 
> > yea... 250k to rent the Oracle for a quad processor workgroup 
> > server 
> > running Slowlaris... 600k to actually buy it... We ended up 
> > sinking a 
> > few hundred K of real money into the crap...  Sure it was good 
> > exposure 
> > but how in the heck can anyone say oh yeah we are going to drop a 
> > half 
> > mil on a program...  
> > 
> > For $600k I could create 3 real companies... Oracle is smoking 
> > crack. 
> > period...  If the downturn takes them under I won't shed a tear.
> > 
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:04:24 -0700
> > Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise
> > 
> > > Why are people surprised about the performance of mySQL versus
> > > whatever?  Generally speaking, the more features an application
> has,
> > > the slower it will be.  Thus, we can say that the more features a
> > > database has (seeing as how a database platform is actually just
> an
> > > application), the slower it will be.  It's a miracle that Oracle
> is
> > > as fast as it is :)
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cutter (CF_Talk)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:00 pm
> > > Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise
> > > 
> > > > Huge article in this weeks E-Week regarding the use of mySQL 
> > for 
> > > > all of 
> > > > Rhode Island's inter/intranet sites
> > > > 
> > > > Cutter
> > > > 
> > > > Paris Lundis wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >Well I can't say I am enterprise.. even if I have a few 
> > tables 
> > > > with a
> > > > >couple of million rows of data...
> > > > >
> > > > >Checkout the MySQL site and see their consulting arm... I 
> > > > remember when
> > > > >I first started considering MySQL, their then cleint list and
> > > > >datawarehouse size was quite large.. fairly impressive amount 
> > of 
> > > > data...>
> > > > >A lot of people are bound to bring up the SQL compliance 
> > issue 
> > > > and lack
> > > > >of robust SQL fancy database query stuff... The eWeek article 
> > was 
> > > > right>on I think about performance... having used both....
> > > > >
> > > > >Your mileage will vary based on the nature of what you are
> doing
> > > of
> > > > >course...
> > > > >
> > > > >Funny how the most expensive solution (Oracle) and the least 
> > > > expensive>(MySQL) performed so closely :)
> > > > >
> > > > >Paris Lundis
> > > > >Founder
> > > > >Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > > > >http://www.areaindex.com
> > > > >http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > > > >412-292-3135
> > > > >[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
> > > present]
> > > > >[connecting people, places and things]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: "Scott Mulholland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:53:26 -0500
> > > > >Subject: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise
> > > > >
> > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > >>I am researching the use of MySQL in use with enterprise
> level
> > > > >>applications, looking for feedback both good and bad.
> > > > >>I have read all the articles on the mySQL site, as well as 
> > the 
> > > > manual>>and the eWeek article comparing it with Oracle.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>Anyone on this list using it currently and have any
> > > success/horror
> > > > >>stories or stats?
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>TIA,
> > > > >>Scott
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
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