This needs to go off to some other place.

However, I wonder why people say this.  It's VERY easy to arm chair
quarterback.  But not so easy to run a multi-billion dollar corporation with
hundreds of thousands of employees, hundreds of products and being in
virtually every part of the world.

At any rate.. Let's take this somewhere else.. It's not tech oriented around
CF.



| its not that all their programs are bad but a majority of 
| their business practices are well what they are. which isn't too good.

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