> > BTW the "use proper channels" line is getting old. I
> > don't think paying customers should have to pay even
> > more just to make MM's bug tracking system work. Change
> > the system so someone such as yourself can report a
> > bug that you see on lists. The bottom line should be
> > making the product the best it can be and NOT
> > "following proper channels".
>
> As someone who's been on both sides of the tech support fence, I don't
think
> Macromedia has any choice but to "use proper channels". It's not as simple
> as reporting a bug based on second-hand information. What OS are they
> running? What database are they running? What database driver? What patch
> level? For anything beyond the most trivial problem, you need a
> back-and-forth communication between the person having the problem, and
the
> tech support person. It's as simple as that.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software

I hear you, however I'm referring to situations such as this list (and
granted there are some "ifs" involved).

-if Mike or someone else from MM sees a potential bug on a list
-if they can get the info you laid out Dave (and this can be easily obtained
by asking the poster)

Then they should be able to get that info into the system.  Would anyone
hear only consider something a bug if a client called you up and paid you
for the honor of reporting it?  I think not

The bottom line should be using all resources possible to make the product
work and work properly and not limiting MM employees to the tech support
process for finding and fixing things.  Lists like this should be considered
a gold mine of information (granted it needs some filtering) and not
ignored.

my 2 cents...but I hear ya Dave

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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