I agree with Mr Watts here completely. ----- The people that are being /SO/ very critical, I have a few questions for you.
1) Are you willing to claim that your applications are 100% without errors? 2) Are you willing to STOP using software that contains errors? (better say no, or might want to uninstall any of the following - MS Office, MS Windows, MS everything. . . Bye bye computer =) Also, how active are you in helping get rid of these bugs? When windows prompts you to report an error do you send it to them? Or do you just click cancel? People are always talking about how Macromedia should foster a Community environment for their apps. I see them making real effort but instead of helping them get to the bottom of these issues, all I see is the usual piss and moan for the most part. I would be very interested to see how large the CF Bug DB (reported by users) is. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it wasn't very large. If it weren't for Macromedia (and companies like them) we would not have many of the cool things we do. Practical always? No. But a good start towards a keen idea? Usually very much so. Think back a bit to the bloated performance nightmare Java applets with their flashy ripple water effects etc. What once was a language used for clunky front end eye candy and "bells and whistles", was replanned, reworked and reimplemented as one of the most robust server side languages in use (imo). It all has to start somewhere. In the end I would rather see Macromedia take a few swings at developing cool tools for use to build cool things with before getting it right, over seeing a company like M$ take a few swings then stamping it out because it doesn't fit the M@ "model" (whatever the hell that is anymore). /rant Sorry bout the rant folks, I know I very rarely chime in. This is just a subject that jabs me the wrong way sometimes. So, Kudos to Macromedia. With time and dedication /WE/ (that's right WE) will get it right...=) -chris -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: The New Macromedia Website(ODBC) > Am just bringing up issues here...FOR the General GOOD > OF CFMX!. It's one thing to say, hey, there's a problem and it should be fixed if possible. It's another thing to say that the product shouldn't have been released because of it. > IF the Community/MM thinks a CFMX BUG is trivial, i can play > along with that. Most bugs aren't trivial to the people who run into them, I suppose. Nobody is asking you to "play along" with anything. But that doesn't mean your goals will be well served by your actions. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
