> Here is an article on using Struts with in CFMX: > > http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/struts.html
Yeah, I've seen that. CFCs as a model instead of JavaBeans, EJB, etc and baking CFML business logic into CFM pages in the View instead of JSP. How is either of those things a truly useful idea? And you'd have to work the CF pages really hard to get the benefits of the inherent Struts framework (eg the validator). Whoopee, I can mix a few cfm tags into the JSP taglibs I'm already using. And can dig under the covers to Java from CF to manipulate the stuff that's truly important. Why add the overhead? There's not a lot that CF offers that's not already in a taglib now -- not a knock against CF, just a fact. The only advantage is that it "transitions" your developers to Java. I'd say take the pain and learn Java -- non-trivial Struts apps are not easy. Building your own custom tag libs is not real easy if you don't know Java. Architecting the struts-config takes some work. Deploying can be a royal pain. If you want your developers to learn Java, give them the resources and have them learn Java. If you want to stick with CF, there's FB4 and Mach-II frameworks in active development. I'm a big fan of the Agile family of development methodologies and mixing Struts and CFMX seems like a backwards step for the development process, not a forward one. Having worked on 4 migration projects involving CF programmers transitioning to Struts, I can't recommend it. Teach them Java and Struts. Or don't use Java on that project. > I have not used it with in CFMX for J2EE, but just in JRun: > http://www.macromedia.com/support/jrun/ts/documents/tn18297.htm > Note: The installation in this article is ok, but the directions for > the "Simple Struts App" is lacking. > > > > Tkx, > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? > > > Having done a couple Struts projects, you need a couple of good Java folks > to help wade through implementing Struts. I'd look at Fusebox (3 or 4, not > MX nee Mach-II) if you're looking for a plug and play framework *for > ColdFusion*. Struts has many more built in features (eg the validator) but > is a lot more complicated. For our small CF5 to Struts migration project > (roughly 30k lines of CF code), the struts-config file was something like > 2800 lines (of course now you can distribute the Struts config files, but > not at that time). > > If you're using CFMX for J2EE, you could consider doing some apps in Struts, > some in CFMX, but I don't see a lot of advantage to mixing them in the same > app -- I think it will be pretty complicated and not sure what value it > gives you. > > Regards, > > John Paul Ashenfelter > CTO/TransitionPoint > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Smith, Don , CTR , WHS/PSD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:50 PM > Subject: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? > > > > Is anyone using Jakarta Struts for CFMX and can they comment toward > > its > use? > > > > I am looking for a published development framework that would be > > flexible enough for development in, plus allow our team to investigate > > new technologies outside of CFMX -I like what I read of Struts' > > integration of Java technology but I haven't implemented it yet. > > > > I'm working with some staff for whom integration of existing Java > libraries > > would be a stretch and others who could handle it easily, but it would > > require ramp-up time and education. > > > > I am hoping to find a framework that would allow me to point new > developers > > to existing materials so I would not have to write up an entire "code > > like > I > > do" book. I am also hoping that it would add something on top of CFMX > > and not merely reorganize CFMX without adding anything. > > > > How was your: > > Ease of development and organization > > Integration with Java for non-Java programmers > > Success rate in getting users to adapt > > > > THANKS! > > > > Don > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
