Well, there's the dilemma: It seems FB3 is basically incompatible with
MVC, so it's either MVC, FB3, or MVC/FB4. :-/

At this point, it seems equally painful to change the architecture (to
non-MVC) as it is to migrate to FB4. :x

Thanks,
Jamie

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:00:22 +0100, in cf-talk you wrote:

>Hi
>
>While it may not be much work to convert from FB3 to FB4 I would not
>encourage this mid project also is FB4 actually out of Beta?
>
>Thanks
>
>Kola
>
>>> 
>>> In a nutshell, don't waste time with FuseQ. It was a cool concept
>that
>>> matured into FB4.
>>> http://beta.fusebox.org/.
>>> 
>>> Jeremy Ridout
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:12 AM
>>> To: CF-Talk
>>> Subject: Re: FuseQ Documentation?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:53:17 -0400, in cf-talk you wrote:
>>> 
>>> >The architecture is different, so if you want to link you do have to
>>> >rewrite.  Depending on whether you separated the architecture out of
>>> your
>>> >fuses, you might or might not have to rewrite your fuses, but you
>will
>>> have
>>> >to rewrite your switches.
>>> 
>>> The reason I wanted to know about FuseQ is I've got a FB3 site under
>>> development, and it's done in the MVC sort of way, with a Model,
>View,
>>> and Controller directory, and things are separated that way. If I try
>>> to keep it pretty strictly MVC, where circuits can't call other
>>> circuits directly, but by way of the Controller, I run into recursive
>>> <cfmodule> calls, which is miserable in stock FB3. This is what I
>>> thought FuseQ was made for.
>>> 
>>> Our architect is quite reluctant to convert from FB3 to FB4 (which I
>>> understand), but would probably allow FuseQ.
>>> 
>>> When I had two cfmodules in a row, in a switch, FuseQ worked
>>> brilliantly, with its AddToQ() function. However, when I got to
>>> *recursive* calls, it started dying. Can somebody tell me if there is
>>> a solution to that problem using FuseQ (there must be!)? Does it have
>>> to do with the StartOfQ() function (which I can't find documentation
>>> for)?
>>> 
>>> I realize this is nobody's problem but my own, but the project is
>>> suffering, and there's got to be a way to do this that won't require
>>> me to teach myself and the entire team FB4, and do a big rewrite. It
>>> seems FuseQ is the answer (even though it's unsupported), and I bet
>>> there's an easy way to do it, but I'm not finding the answer. Anybody
>>> have it? :O
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jamie
>>> 
>>> >If your fuses will stay the same moving from FB3 to FuseQ, then they
>>> will
>>> >stay the same moving from FB3 to FB4.  Again, you will rewrite your
>>> >switches.
>>> >
>>> >The bigger problem will be breaking out of the Nested Layout model.
>FB4
>>> >doesn't support Nested Layouts natively (and a good thing too).  I
>wrote
>>> a
>>> >plugin which will support Nested Layouts for moving old apps in,but
>it
>>> still
>>> >involves a bit of a rewrite.  While FuseQ does support Nested
>Layouts,
>>> it
>>> >also gives you the same control with layouts as FB4
>(contentvariables),
>>> the
>>> >ability to capture discrete bits of display into variables and then
>>> output
>>> >them specifically in their own layout.
>>> >
>>> >See my presentation from CFUN03 on my site for more info.
>>> >http://www.shayna.com go to the presentations area.
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:43 AM
>>> >To: CF-Talk
>>> >Subject: RE: FuseQ Documentation?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Sandy
>>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So why rewrite the application in FuseQ?  FuseQ will not be
>supported
>>> >>> from
>>> >>> this point forward as all of it is now available in Fusebox 4.
>If
>>> >you
>>> >>> are
>>> >>> going to rewrite your application from FB3 to something anyways
>(and
>>> >>> believe
>>> >>> me to take advantage of content variables and the ability to link
>>> >>> fuseactions together you do have to do a rewrite),
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I wasn't aware that to take advantage of the chaining fuseactions
>>> >together
>>> >It would involve a lot more of a re-write. I wrongly had the
>impression
>>> >from what little I have read on FuseQ that you could plug in the
>core
>>> >file and start chaining fuseaction together.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > why not just do it in
>>> >>> FB4?  If you have MX a stable core is available now at
>>> >beta.fusebox.org.
>>> >>> If
>>> >>> you have 5, go ahead and play with FuseQ, but know you will move
>it
>>> >to
>>> >>> FB4
>>> >>> as soon as the 5 core becomes available.
>>> >
>>> >Maybe. We'll see.
>>> >Thanks anyway.
>>> >
>>> >Kola
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> 
>>>
>
>
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