Wish I could say that I'm not a sales person... :) Well that's not true -- I say that all the time, just not in this context. :) I am however a developer.
> DB should act as a STORAGE mechanism and NOT DYNAMIC, in > most cases (This is not how the existing system works). Tapestry does work this way. It allows dynamic content when desirable or necessary, i.e. rotating banners, etc. but it writes the rest of the content to file which eliminates all that overhead of grautitous runtime page assembly (GRUPA - not my term)... I'm working on versioning currently as well as Oracle support -- hopefully it will work on both SQL Server and Oracle with largely the same codebase soon (excepting stored procedures of course)... Permissions and worlfklow have been written. The workflow component needs updating to be compatible with the new version I'm releasing hopefully soon, the big upgrade that broke it being managing multiple content languages. Easy to use for the users is something you'd have to judge for yourself -- the interface is designed specifically for the purpose of being customized, so how easy it is for the users probably has a lot to do with what kind of forms you give them to enter their content. It does use the soEditor wysiwyg html editing tool by default. Works on CF5... As to db maintenance available outside of system are you talking about backing up the db or editing records in the tables? ... backing up isn't an issue (outside of the fact that it writes a lot of stuff to file, so if you restore a backup you may have to do a bit of work to synch up those files). Editing records outside of the system is another story -- I wouldn't recommend it. Installs in about 5 minutes without a single line of programming, though "relatively easy to get up and running" will of course depend on what kind of content you need to manage -- you have to build the forms for your users to manage that content. It's OO which helps make it a little easier if you know how to write good methods. And I'd like to think it's easy to customize -- especially thanks to the add/remove components wizard... Anyway... I hope that answers most of your questions without seeming like an overt sales pitch. :) Let me know if you'd like to see a demo. s. isaac dealey 972-490-6624 new epoch http://www.turnkey.to lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to tapestry api is opensource http://www.turnkey.to/tapi team macromedia volunteer http://www.macromedia.com/go/team certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816 > I would be interested in hearing opinions on some good > CF-based CMSs. I need to develop a short list so that I > can evaluate a few systems. > If you could pick one... which one? And why? Any > experience with one system or another? > We have a CMS here, which is the biggest piece of... well, > let's just say that I may finally win the battle that this > system needs a replacement. I would upgrade the existing > system, but I think that will take too many man hours to > fix the flaws in the system and... right now, I am a > one-man development team. > Here are my requirements: > Permissions > Workflow > Images and documents stored in Database, but are published > to website. > Static pages that can be stored in Database - allow > versioning. > DB should act as a STORAGE mechanism and NOT DYNAMIC, in > most cases (This is not how the existing system works). > Oracle 8i/9i - DB maintenance available OUTSIDE of system > (Isn't this an issue with NQCONTENT?) > CF5 preferred; CFMX Enterprise possible (we'd have to > upgrade; there may be COM object issues if we do) > EASY TO USE for the USERS!!! (CMS users have to be able > to use the admin, not fight with it every time they want > to do something.) > Uses stylesheets > I should be able to make CMS and site interface changes, > if needed. > Simple URLs!!!!! - e.g. > http://www.easynavigate.com/section/page.cfm (our current > CMS does not do this and that is the single biggest > complaint from the executives) > RELATIVELY EASY TO GET UP AND RUNNING > Relatively easy to customize, if necessary > I can elaborate more if needed. > Here are a list of CF-based systems that I know of... > Ektron - CMS 100/200/300 & eMPower (I am not sure what the > differences are between CMS 300 and eMPower - I didn't > find that very clear from their website) > PaperThin - Common Spot Server > NetQuest - NQContent > Systems Alliance - Site Executive > FarCry - Open Source - inspired by Spectra (CFMX based - > more of a framework than a finished system?) > Spectra - Allaire/Macromedia, now Open Source (framework) > Oasis - RemoteSite Technologies (I couldn't get to their > site) > SparkPlug - 13amp.com > There may be others I don't know of... > Are there any open source CMSs that are CF-based that are > ready to go, out of the box? For something like FarCry, > how quickly can it be configured so that an existing CMS > can be converted, users, permissions, workflow and > content? > I am not really interested right now in hearing from sales > people... I want to hear from developers that have tried > out systems and have an opinion. > Looking forward to the responses! > Sincerely, > Brian Meloche, > 4th Floor, ITO - 414 > CSS > (304) 759-0585 x448 > Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5.0 Developer > 130 pounds lost and counting! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~| > Archives: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index. > cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > Get the mailserver that powers this list at > http://www.coolfusion.com > Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/uns > ubscribe.cfm?user=633.558.4 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. 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