I agree with you on that one. Excuses aside, the marketing concentrates
on those other features because there is more to say about them. As I
already said, there are indeed benefits for us CF folks but they are
incremental, not major new features (that I know of). CF should have
been been more prominent, they screwed up, and we're not letting them
live it down, but at the same time that wasn't a whole lot more to say
(that was CF specific).

---- Ben






-----Original Message-----
From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?


Speaking for myself, I do question the commitment from a marketing
standpoint for CF.

You said that they wished to target the PHP and ASP market, but this
doesn't explain why there was no mention of CF specific products in
their initial marketing campaign. 

That contradicts a company wide commitment to a product and a cohesive
vision for a line of utilities that includes that product.

It's like New Atlanta came out with an IDE for CFML and in the next
revision mentioning pages upon pages of new features for .Net and
nothing for the standard Bluedragon server, whilst saying outside the
offical marketing campaign there have been several 'exciting'
improvements for standard Bluedragon.

That's akin to what MM is doing with their marketing.

In the offical campaign they mention improvements for .ASP and .PHP. 
But on these lists they say that us CF Coders have so much to look
forward to, 
yet none of these are worth mentioning in the official marketing
campaign??? 

That does not compute.

-Angel

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

For those of you who question the commitment to CF, um, hello? Did you
miss 6.1? I for one think that CFMX 6.1 is a very significant upgrade,
you may feel otherwise and are entitled to do so. Regardless, investing
as we did in CF and then releasing it as a free upgrade to me spells
Commitment (with a capital C). Yes, I know there are other departments
and product teams within Macromedia who like to play Switzerland and not
marry themselves to any product for fear of alienating users of other
technologies, but that is marketing and should be recognized as such. I
beat up on them for it, you should feel free to do the same. If you hear
nothing from the CF team for a while, get worried, until then realize
that Macromedia is a big company (i.e., not Allaire) selling lots of
products many of which generate far greater revenue than does
ColdFusion.

--- Ben



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