Thanks Lee Yup I already investigated the MySQL route.....and simply puit...it ain't no database if it doesn't have SPs,views. triggers, proper referential integrity etc. ;-)
If PostgreSQL isn't ready for Windows in production then I'm going the MSDE route....it will cost the client a couple extra bucks to get an MSDE licence via Office (or the other ways you can get through MS licensing issues). BTW this will be a co-lo box so at least the shared hosting available technology restrictions do not come into play ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------- Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com --------------------------------------------------------- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re:calling all users of PostgreSQL on Windows > OK Bryan - > > You say you're an OSS newbie. That's fine; we all were once. > > Why Postgres? Personally, I virtually always use Postgres when I can, but there is another OSS database available (well, a bunch, but it often comes down to Postgres vs....): mySQL. > > Up front, let me say that I'm not a fan of mySQL. To me, mySQL = Access; Postgres = Oracle (roughly, in both cases). > > But there are time when you just need Access. Here's a quick hit list of the pros and cons of each (my opinions, but backed by experience and reading): > > POSTGRES Pros: > - Robust, scalable > - ACID compliant > - ANSI 92 compliant; contains a plethora of functions that make life easier > - Fast (used to be a dog; in v7.1 and up, much faster - see Tim Perdue's articles as www.phpbuilder.net) > - Excellent security model > - Many tuning options > > POSTGRES Cons: > - More complex (including set up) > - Lack of GUI tools (I have not found one I like yet; I do all my PSQL from the command line) > - Overkill in some cases - Just like you would not install Oracle for "Bob's Pet Shoppe" Web site, Postgres is sometimes unnecessary > - Not really cross-platform yet. Hopefully in 2004. > > MYSQL Pros: > - Trivial set up > - Fast, at least for selects (main Web Server use) > - Cross platform; runs well on *NIX or Windows. Big plus > - Some good GUI tools out there (I use SQLYog; which I like a lot) > - It's improving rapidly - the cons outlined below may go away shortly > > MYSQL Cons: > - You can outgrow it quickly (the locking mechanism is particularily troublesome; can take a real performance hit on high-traffic sites > - Weird, proprietary SQL > - No subselects (my biggest complaint) > - No transactions! (with the innoDB extension you can get transactions, but that's not currently a native solution, I believe) > > Like the platform wars, a lot of folks take the mySQL vs. Postgres comparison as a war; I view them as two tools. > > Pick the best one, but be aware of the costs/benefits of each. > > RE: Cost, as in $$: Yep, both are free, with some businesses offering bundles for cost (as RedHat does with Linux etc). > > One other note: For clients that are going to have a NON-dedicated server: It's almost impossible to find hosting for Postgres. Everyone has mySQL; very few with Postgres, and it's usually a "managed business solution" that is expensive. It's the chicken and the egg thing: Everyone has mySQL, so it's cheap; few have Postgres and it's not cheap, so they don't run it... > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm

