Well, we're of the same mind.

If you're tied to Windoze, MS SQL is a great database, for my money. Perfect? No. But 
what is?

If you do get to running some Linux etc, Postgres rocks. Good luck.

>Thanks Lee
>
>Yup I already investigated the MySQL route.....and simply puit...it ain't no
>database if it doesn't have SPs,views. triggers, proper referential
>integrity etc. ;-)
>
>If PostgreSQL isn't ready for Windows in production then I'm going the MSDE
>route....it will cost the client a couple extra bucks to get an MSDE licence
>via Office (or the other ways you can get through MS licensing issues).  BTW
>this will be a co-lo box so at least the shared hosting available technology
>restrictions do not come into play ;-)
>
>Cheers
>
>Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>t. 250.920.8830
>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:43 AM
>Subject: Re:calling all users of PostgreSQL on Windows
>
>
>> OK Bryan -
>>
>> You say you're an OSS newbie. That's fine; we all were once.
>>
>> Why Postgres? Personally, I virtually always use Postgres when I can, but
>there is another OSS database available (well, a bunch, but it often comes
>down to Postgres vs....): mySQL.
>>
>> Up front, let me say that I'm not a fan of mySQL. To me, mySQL = Access;
>Postgres = Oracle (roughly, in both cases).
>>
>> But there are time when you just need Access. Here's a quick hit list of
>the pros and cons of each (my opinions, but backed by experience and
>reading):
>>
>> POSTGRES Pros:
>> - Robust, scalable
>> - ACID compliant
>> - ANSI 92 compliant; contains a plethora of functions that make life
>easier
>> - Fast (used to be a dog; in v7.1 and up, much faster - see Tim Perdue's
>articles as www.phpbuilder.net)
>> - Excellent security model
>> - Many tuning options
>>
>> POSTGRES Cons:
>> - More complex (including set up)
>> - Lack of GUI tools (I have not found one I like yet; I do all my PSQL
>from the command line)
>> - Overkill in some cases - Just like you would not install Oracle for
>"Bob's Pet Shoppe" Web site, Postgres is sometimes unnecessary
>> - Not really cross-platform yet. Hopefully in 2004.
>>
>> MYSQL Pros:
>> - Trivial set up
>> - Fast, at least for selects (main Web Server use)
>> - Cross platform; runs well on *NIX or Windows. Big plus
>> - Some good GUI tools out there (I use SQLYog; which I like a lot)
>> - It's improving rapidly - the cons outlined below may go away shortly
>>
>> MYSQL Cons:
>> - You can outgrow it quickly (the locking mechanism is particularily
>troublesome; can take a real performance hit on high-traffic sites
>> - Weird, proprietary SQL
>> - No subselects (my biggest complaint)
>> - No transactions! (with the innoDB extension you can get transactions,
>but that's not currently a native solution, I believe)
>>
>> Like the platform wars, a lot of folks take the mySQL vs. Postgres
>comparison as a war; I view them as two tools.
>>
>> Pick the best one, but be aware of the costs/benefits of each.
>>
>> RE: Cost, as in $$: Yep, both are free, with some businesses offering
>bundles for cost (as RedHat does with Linux etc).
>>
>> One other note: For clients that are going to have a NON-dedicated server:
>It's almost impossible to find hosting for Postgres. Everyone has mySQL;
>very few with Postgres, and it's usually a "managed business solution" that
>is expensive. It's the chicken and the egg thing: Everyone has mySQL, so
>it's cheap; few have Postgres and it's not cheap, so they don't run it...
>>
>>
>> 
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