Maybe I've just sensitive to this because I'm doing something now.


All I wanted to do was automate the creation of relative Playlists for my
WMA library (by default Windows Media player saves playlists with absolute
paths).  So now (in my off hours) I'm learning enough Windows Scripting Host
stuff to be able to do that.  It's not super hard, but it would be much
nicer to be able to build such a dealy-o in CFML.


That being said I'm not sure that this is the "right" implementation for
that.  I love the idea of using CFML as the scripting glue for desktop
automation chores but the concept of a full (even if hidden) webserver,
application engine, etc does seem a bit heavy.


I guess what I'm saying is that I wasn't seeing this tool as specifically an
application development tool, but rather an automation scripting tool.  CFML
and CFOBJECT could do most, if not all, of what WSH does now - if it ran
that way.


Jim Davis


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From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Another CFML app server...


I agree. As I see it Coral is means to creating a desktop app by either
reusing code from a web site (which it can't do completely) or leveraging CF
devs who don't know any other language.

Either way, I think it's the wrong user experience. Web apps are a
compromise for the user and developer already because of the limitations of
the web. Why put a compromised app on the desktop where you could have
leveraged the full capabilities of the platform?

<devil's advocate>
Because the client won't spend the money/time on creating a desktop version
of what they've already got.
</devil's advocate>

Basically I see it offering an option to accomodate a bad situation. It may
not be a good option, but it's one more than before.

-Kevin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marlon Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Another CFML app server...

> It seems to me that there are a lot of better alternatives....php,
> asp.net, python, perl, etc.   I guess I'm just trying to apply the old
> rule "the right tool for the right job"
>
> /slips on flameproof underwear
>
> marlon
>
> Thane Sherrington wrote:
>
> > At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote:
> > >Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off
> > >just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day!
> >
> > 24 by my count (I'm ignoring cflock since it isn't needed.)
> >
> > cfabort
> > cfapplication
> > cfbreak
> > cfcookie
> > cfdirectory
> > cfexecute
> > cffile
> > cfhttp
> > cfif
> > cfelse
> > cfelseif
> > cfinclude
> > cflocation
> > cflock    not required in Coral
> > cfloop
> > cfmail
> > cfoutput
> > cfparam
> > cfpop
> > cfprocessingdirective
> > cfquery
> > cfscript
> > cfset
> > cftransaction
> > cftry/cfcatch
> >
> > While it could be better, it is a start - we should be encouraging this
> > sort of thing, I think.
> >
> > T
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Adam Wayne Lehman
> > >Web Systems Developer
> > >Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
> > >Distance Education Division
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM
> > >To: CF-Talk
> > >Subject: RE: Another CFML app server...
> > >
> > >A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of
> > >this...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Greg Luce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: Another CFML app server...
> > > >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -0500
> > > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > >Received: from houseoffusion.com ([64.118.64.245]) by
> > >mc5-f39.hotmail.com
> > > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:41:33 -0800
> > > >Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOSTwith ESMTP id
> > > >9EF0D689E3AD1E40A2C3F72EDF6FB058Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0500
> > > >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGZZGSE3Ub5y1wF09VcJMdd
> > > >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Precedence: bulk
> > > >References:
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 16:41:41.0752 (UTC)
> > > >FILETIME=[7ED08F80:01C3BA85]
> > > >
> > > >What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it.
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM
> > > >To: CF-Talk
> > > >Subject: RE: Another CFML app server...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Chickens.
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM
> > > >To: CF-Talk
> > > >Subject: Re: Another CFML app server...
> > > >
> > > >I think its been removed :)
> > > >
> > > >On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, "Gabriel Robichaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gabriel
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: Re: Another CFML app server...
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim Blair wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> > Morning,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > It's a new one on me...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Tim.
> > > > >> >
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