No, I know you didn't mean to discourage anyone. I'm just scared to
death to pick up flash, because I have a feeling that the simple things
that take moments to do in html will take a huge amount of time or be
impossible to do in Flash. For example, allot of my clients love the
ability to upload files, download excel spreadsheets, etc. It takes a
few moments to plug this into my html apps, however the upload component
for flash would need integration. There is no way that I know of to
embed the excel spread sheet into the site like I can with IE. The same
thing goes with PDF files. How fast can a select box that when you type
the results are narrowed. Can you easily highlight a string of search
result keywords, etc. All this can be done in Flash if not natively by a
3-party component, but not as quick as can be done in html.


Basically it comes down to, that I feel by picking up Flash it would
take us back-in-time. Have to learn the basic things all over again. For
example, is it possible to change the flash form look and feel via css?
Can I quickly change the entire look of my application from a css file
and not have to go in and edit the component code just to change the
color.


Flash Remoting to me is a sore spot because the connector has to be
setup on each new website instance, it's not done automatically. And to
get it on their we have to run the connector script on all sites and not
just the one that is needed. If I built an application on flash remoting
a requirement would have to be the user that installs it having flash
remoting installed. And if they have problems with that, they call me.
Not good. With SOAP, those problems are gone. Maybe it's just me and
that SOAP makes more since to me. It's automatic, no muss, no fuss.


Sorry for the long post, it's just one of my sore spots, I really want
to be able to extend my applications beyond the browser, however for
some of the reasons above, I hesitate to do so. Right now it's kind of
seems more work than it's worth.


Flex is a great idea, but how can that be browser-less, how can that sit
on a users desktop? Like regular flash and soap can.


Thanks for the offer to help, I have much more time to spend sniffing
around the bush if you know what I mean before I start. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash for Developers/Programmers WAS: Flash Remoting with
Blue Dragon

I certainly didn't intend to discourage the use of Flash!  I think
these types of issues are to be expected when working with such new
technology.  Fortunately, if you know where to look, you can learn from
other people's experience and avoid most of the frustration.

If you decide to have a go at it, I can probably help you with any
issues you run into.  And I should probably clarify that I have written
several Flash/CF applications that integrate through SOAP and work
great.  There are just a couple of issues to watch out for.

Christian
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