Flash apps have their place, and they are not websites.

For example, I just rebuilt my companies intranet that was Classic
ASP/DHTML to Flash MX 2004/CFMX with the frontend all being flash. Now,
these are financial tools and CRM tools, client tracking, and the like
and the ASP/DHTML version was a huge pain to maintain where the flash
one is much easier. I did build a way to narrow list/drop downs while
you type(this was huge) a _javascript_ version was available, but it was a
huge pain. Also, the GUI is much easier to use than a HTML GUI, but this
is not a 'website'. These are specific applications that definitely
needed a 'richer' interface than a traditional website.

As for speed of development, I can build a flash form app much quicker
than I can a HTML form app... its drag/drop hook some listenters and
have my CFC's process the data coming in... but Flash RIA's are not
needed for everything. I could not have given my customers(other
employee's) what they wanted in an application without flash this time
around...

my 2 cents...

Bryan F. Hogan wrote:

> No, I know you didn't mean to discourage anyone. I'm just scared to
> death to pick up flash, because I have a feeling that the simple things
> that take moments to do in html will take a huge amount of time or be
> impossible to do in Flash. For example, allot of my clients love the
> ability to upload files, download excel spreadsheets, etc. It takes a
> few moments to plug this into my html apps, however the upload component
> for flash would need integration. There is no way that I know of to
> embed the excel spread sheet into the site like I can with IE. The same
> thing goes with PDF files. How fast can a select box that when you type
> the results are narrowed. Can you easily highlight a string of search
> result keywords, etc. All this can be done in Flash if not natively by a
> 3-party component, but not as quick as can be done in html.
>
>
> Basically it comes down to, that I feel by picking up Flash it would
> take us back-in-time. Have to learn the basic things all over again. For
> example, is it possible to change the flash form look and feel via css?
> Can I quickly change the entire look of my application from a css file
> and not have to go in and edit the component code just to change the
> color.
>
>
> Flash Remoting to me is a sore spot because the connector has to be
> setup on each new website instance, it's not done automatically. And to
> get it on their we have to run the connector script on all sites and not
> just the one that is needed. If I built an application on flash remoting
> a requirement would have to be the user that installs it having flash
> remoting installed. And if they have problems with that, they call me.
> Not good. With SOAP, those problems are gone. Maybe it's just me and
> that SOAP makes more since to me. It's automatic, no muss, no fuss.
>
>
> Sorry for the long post, it's just one of my sore spots, I really want
> to be able to extend my applications beyond the browser, however for
> some of the reasons above, I hesitate to do so. Right now it's kind of
> seems more work than it's worth.
>
>
> Flex is a great idea, but how can that be browser-less, how can that sit
> on a users desktop? Like regular flash and soap can.
>
>
> Thanks for the offer to help, I have much more time to spend sniffing
> around the bush if you know what I mean before I start. :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Flash for Developers/Programmers WAS: Flash Remoting with
> Blue Dragon
>
> I certainly didn't intend to discourage the use of Flash!  I think
> these types of issues are to be expected when working with such new
> technology.  Fortunately, if you know where to look, you can learn from
> other people's experience and avoid most of the frustration.
>
> If you decide to have a go at it, I can probably help you with any
> issues you run into.  And I should probably clarify that I have written
> several Flash/CF applications that integrate through SOAP and work
> great.  There are just a couple of issues to watch out for.
>
> Christian
>
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