you can use it in production. The developer edition is a completely
separate product.
-Matt
On Apr 21, 2004, at 2:41 PM, Johnny Le wrote:
> Is BD really free?��From what I know, only the developer versio is
> free.��You can't use it for production.��If you know of a free version
> for production, please let me know.
> Thanks.
>
> Johnny
>
> >That's perfect. Now you can use BlueDragon/J2EE to redeploy all of
> your
> >existing CFML applications to WebSphere. We can raise the price from
> the
> >current $2500/CPU, if that'll keep your management happy.��:-)
> >
> >Should I have an account rep contact you?
> >
> >Vince Bonfanti
> >New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> >http://www.newatlanta.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:48 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF
> >
> >
> >This isn't all that odd. in my case the problem is similar, but
> comes from
> >another end.��My (very large) company won't consider either product
> because
> >their both too cheap - and so (goes the management opinion) are not
> fit for
> >enterprise use.
> >
> >We're not allowed to use open source software for the same reasons:
> free
> >means "no support' (which is bogus) and poor quality compared to
> enterprise
> >vendors.
> >
> >Now wait for the punchline.��What did this company decide to
> standardize on?
> >What tool meets their criteria?
> >
> >IBM WebSphere on IBM Apache.��So we end up spending many, MANY
> thousands of
> >dollars on essentially branded open source software.��(Which, has an
> aside,
> >is so difficult to configure and learn that we've yet to produce any
> >applications significantly better than our legacy CF 4.5 apps).
> >
> >Jim Davis
> >
> >��_____��
> >
> >From: Claremont, Timothy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:29 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF
> >
> >The "free" BD vs "$$$$" CF comes down to politics in our
> organization.
> >
> >It was a struggle to get my employer to warm up to CF 4.5. I
> literally
> >had to formally donate my copy, make an effective application, then
> beg
> >for forgiveness instead of asking for permission. Slowly but surely,
> >there were converts.
> >
> >Moving to 6.1 at this point means the cost of an upgrade ($600 or
> so).
> >
> >Moving to the "free" BD means a hard sell to management that we
> should
> >make use of a product that is "free". And, with the ironic comedy
> worthy
> >of a Dilbert cartoon, management is quite steadfast in the opinion
> that
> >taking a huge gamble with the sanctity of our data with a company
> like
> >Macromedia at a cost of $600 is more prudent than the "free" route
> with
> >the lesser known New Atlanta. The humor is that 4.5 (the version I
> >demonstated with) was an Allaire product. New Atlanta vs Allaire, in
> the
> >medical arena, is not exactly the makings of a big draw prizefight.
> >
> >Now, I could go through a long educational process that explains the
> >pros and cons of going with a Macromedia vs a New Atlanta, but the
> $600
> >savings gets eaten away really quick by the time I prepare a
> >presentation, bang my head on the walls of my cubicle, make enemies
> in
> >IS for being a rebel, spend $$$ on Tylenol, etc.
> >
> >So, as painful as it might be for an organization such as ours to
> pony
> >up the $600 for a CF upgrade, the relative cost of going with New
> >Atlanta is not worth it. The name "Macromedia" garners enough
> >recognition from management and the IT staff where they are at least
> >willing to let me get the product onto the network. I can't afford to
> >give up that credibility at the cost of $600.
> >
> >Is this a jab on my part against New Atlanta? Not at all. I am merely
> >illustrating why, in MY CASE, $600 for CF is "cheaper" than $0 for
> >BlueDragon.
>
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