Yes, BlueDragon Server really is free for production. BD Server 6.1, now in
beta, includes CFCs, XML, Web Services, CFSEARCH, and nearly all of the
features you expect from a CFML server. The beta3 release can be downloaded
from our web site:

  http://www.newatlanta.com/c/products/bluedragon-beta/download/home

BlueDragon Server JX requires you to purchase a license, and adds these
features on top of the free BlueDragon Server:

  - JDBC drivers for Microsoft SQL Server and Oracle
      - the free version supports ODBC, MySQL, and PostgreSQL
  - web server adapters for Netscape, iPlanet, and SunONE web servers
      - the free version supports Microsoft IIS and Apache
  - Java Servlets and JavaServer Pages (JSP)
  - Precompiled, Encrypted CFML Templates

The only other restriction on the free BlueDragon Server is that you can't
redistribute it or use it to provide commercial web hosting services without
a signed agreement with New Atlanta.

BlueDragon for J2EE Servers (BlueDragon/J2EE) also requires you to purchase
a license, and allows you to deploy CFML applications on any standard J2EE
server, including WebLogic, WebSphere, JBoss, Oracle, Borland, JRun, et al.

The forthcoming BlueDragon.NET will also require a license purchase, and
will allow you to natively deploy and integrate CFML pages within ASP.NET
web applications.

So BlueDragon covers all the bases:

    - free
    - native deployment and integration on J2EE servers
    - native deployment and integration on .NET servers

One more thing, the development versions of BlueDragon Server JX,
BlueDragon/J2EE, and BlueDragon.NET are free.

Regards,

Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF

Is BD really free?  From what I know, only the developer versio is free.
You can't use it for production.  If you know of a free version for
production, please let me know.
Thanks.

Johnny

>That's perfect. Now you can use BlueDragon/J2EE to redeploy all of your
>existing CFML applications to WebSphere. We can raise the price from the
>current $2500/CPU, if that'll keep your management happy.  :-)
>
>Should I have an account rep contact you?
>
>Vince Bonfanti
>New Atlanta Communications, LLC
>http://www.newatlanta.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:48 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF
>
>
>This isn't all that odd. in my case the problem is similar, but comes from
>another end.  My (very large) company won't consider either product because
>their both too cheap - and so (goes the management opinion) are not fit for
>enterprise use.
>
>We're not allowed to use open source software for the same reasons: free
>means "no support' (which is bogus) and poor quality compared to enterprise
>vendors.
>
>Now wait for the punchline.  What did this company decide to standardize
on?
>What tool meets their criteria?
>
>IBM WebSphere on IBM Apache.  So we end up spending many, MANY thousands of
>dollars on essentially branded open source software.  (Which, has an aside,
>is so difficult to configure and learn that we've yet to produce any
>applications significantly better than our legacy CF 4.5 apps).
>
>Jim Davis
>
>  _____  
>
>From: Claremont, Timothy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:29 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: "FREE" BD vs. "$$$$" CF
>
>The "free" BD vs "$$$$" CF comes down to politics in our organization.
>
>It was a struggle to get my employer to warm up to CF 4.5. I literally
>had to formally donate my copy, make an effective application, then beg
>for forgiveness instead of asking for permission. Slowly but surely,
>there were converts.
>
>Moving to 6.1 at this point means the cost of an upgrade ($600 or so).
>
>Moving to the "free" BD means a hard sell to management that we should
>make use of a product that is "free". And, with the ironic comedy worthy
>of a Dilbert cartoon, management is quite steadfast in the opinion that
>taking a huge gamble with the sanctity of our data with a company like
>Macromedia at a cost of $600 is more prudent than the "free" route with
>the lesser known New Atlanta. The humor is that 4.5 (the version I
>demonstated with) was an Allaire product. New Atlanta vs Allaire, in the
>medical arena, is not exactly the makings of a big draw prizefight.
>
>Now, I could go through a long educational process that explains the
>pros and cons of going with a Macromedia vs a New Atlanta, but the $600
>savings gets eaten away really quick by the time I prepare a
>presentation, bang my head on the walls of my cubicle, make enemies in
>IS for being a rebel, spend $$$ on Tylenol, etc.
>
>So, as painful as it might be for an organization such as ours to pony
>up the $600 for a CF upgrade, the relative cost of going with New
>Atlanta is not worth it. The name "Macromedia" garners enough
>recognition from management and the IT staff where they are at least
>willing to let me get the product onto the network. I can't afford to
>give up that credibility at the cost of $600.
>
>Is this a jab on my part against New Atlanta? Not at all. I am merely
>illustrating why, in MY CASE, $600 for CF is "cheaper" than $0 for
>BlueDragon.
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