But Sam,

The pricing is based on a distro modlel of thousands (or hundreds of
thousands).

If you have a pricing based on hundreds of millions of desktops, that's
quite another thing.

What it boils down to is that CFMX is becoming something analogous to a
UCSD p-code compiler/interpreter -- that was used to create the
second-generation of microcomputer apps (and much of the original Mac
GUI.

CFML is easier to learn/write/maintain apps than Pascal, Java, APL,
JSP, PHP, Perl C,.....

why not use it?

Dick

On Jun 28, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Samuel R. Neff wrote:

> You want to use CFMX and Flex to create desktop apps?��You'll need at
> least
>  $18,000 per installation given current pricing.
>
>  Flex needs a license for each computer that serves up SWFs created by
> Flex
>  (regardless of whether or not Flex is installed).��Distribute the
> SWFs on
>  CD, it's $12,000 per CD.
>
>  Blackstone details have not been announced but it's a sure bet that
> the
>  WAR/EAR deployment options are going to be enterprise only and Ben did
>  mention during his preso that you need a Blackstone license on the
> deployed
>  machine (although it's possible that it may not be a fully license
> but some
>  special runtime license--it's even probable that this is not yet
> decided).
>
>  No tool is a one-size-fits-all solution.��CF is a server
> tool.��Always will
>  be.��You want to write desktop apps, use something designed for
> desktops
>  (.NET, Java, C++, Director, or even Flash with a projector extension).
>
>  Sam
>
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>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:33 PM
>  > To: CF-Talk
>  > Subject: Re: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04
>  >
>  > Ben
>  >
>  > I'll go re-checkout Central.
>  >
>  > But what I meant was CF/Flash on the desktop -- seems like CFMX/Java
>  > can do a lot of apps.
>  >
>  > But Swing is not all that rich an interface (and as Barney
>  > pointed out
>  > a PITA to implement)
>  >
>  > What I am hoping/asking is:
>  >
>  > With Blackstone can I write a CFMX/Java* app that runs on the
> Desktop
>  > (no browser, no web server) and use procedural Flash (ala Flex) to
>  > create a UI?
>  >
>  > * not writing a Photoshop, Word, or Excel -- just a custom App.
>  >
>  > TIA
>  >
>  > Dick
>  >
>
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