OK Mike

I'll give it a try!

The preso I watched was the one at the MM site that you reference -- I
was not impressed, but will dig deeper into some of the examples &
maybe DL the trial.

I don't like the stage orientation of Director -- it is not natural for
what I want to do -- just as the movie orientation of Flash is not a
fit.

Some of the things I want to do involve OS level (Command line)
scripting and or other languages -- For example using CFExecute to use
Imagemagick (Pearl).

Or use CFExecute with OSA scripting to control/manipulate other
apps/files on the desktop (with the user's permission/participation).

While some of the apps involve multimedia, I will not be creating the
multimedia within the development tool -- rather I will be
organizing/navigating among existing audio/video/textual data that
resides in (or is referenced by, a db and files.  There will be a
totally-web-based version and a totally-DVD-based version.

Both are interactive, and have semi-automatic modes (a slide show, for
example).

The web-based version is more accessible and more up to date.

The DVD-based version is higher-quality (larger) A/V than is practical
on the web (or copyrighted content that cannot be redistributed on the
web).

The DVD-based version must be completely self-contained (app, db, db
data, AV/text files, etc).

The DVD-based version will be able to gather local A/V/text files and
upload them to the web.

The DVD-based version will seamlessly connect to the Web-based version
(as necessary)

The DVD version will run on any platform, without any downloads,
installation, copying of files, etc.

Just insert the DVD/CD and it starts.

Can Director do these things?

Got a URL for your whiteboard thingy.

BTW, the 20 year-old demo was, well, unforgettable -- a Director App
showing tweening to illustrate a frog jumping -- and Marc Cantor
explaining tweening by performing the actions of jumping like a frog
(himself).

I must say, though, I am better reasonably proficient in _javascript_,
but I don't like programming/debugging it.

Dick

On Jun 30, 2004, at 8:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Dick, with all due respect, in 1985 my data-comm instructor was all
> hyped
>  up about this thing on the arpa-net called electronic-mail. Hell she
> even
>  expected us to wrap our heads around tcp/ip. I sat through her
> classes and
>  found these limitations:
>
>  the university wasn't handing out accounts to students
>  [and even if they were]
>  I didn't own a pc
>  [and thus] I didn't have a modem
>  I was happy 'programming' stuff in dBaseIII+ on a 4.77 MHz Zenith
>
>  Fact is that (as Dave is questioning) there's nothing you've mentioned
>  within the context of this thread (multiple media types, xml, rich
> user
>  interface, web-connections, etc.)��that Director cannot do with
> aplomb.
>  Yes I'm biased because I made a decent living for nearly 10 years
> doing
>  many things Director. Hell, thanks to a (formerly) supportive boss &
> some
>  tech-transfer managers, I have a patent-pending (knowledge-base /
>  whiteboard / app generator thingy) coded (ok - prototyped) in 100%
>  Director. Director is a killer tool that's worthy of more than a
> reference
>  to a demo from 20 years ago.
>
>  [jumping off high-horse] So, if you want to learn more, just ask or
> point
>  your browser to http://www.macromedia.com/software/director/
>
>  Best of luck,
>
>  -mike
>
>
>
>  Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  06/30/2004 10:47 AM
>  Please respond to cf-talk
>
>  ��������To:�����CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  ��������cc:
>  ��������Subject:��������Re: Blackstone @ CF-FUN '04
>
>  On Jun 30, 2004, at 6:29 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
>
>  >��Out of curiosity, what can't you do with Director that you need to
> do
>  > for
>  >��your application?
>  >
>
>  Why, that's Marc Cantor's old program -- saw him demo that years ago
> at
>  the SF Computer Faire (circa 1985)
>
>  I sat through the preso and found these limitations
>
>  1) Mac and Win only
>
>  2) no real good native DB capability
>
>  3) orientation wrong for what I want to do
>
>  It seems that director would be very good to publish a CD/DVD with the
>  results of some of the apps I want to write -- rather than use
> director
>  to write the apps themselves
>
>  Dick
>
>  "You don't get anything clean without getting something else dirty."
>  - Cecil Baxter -
>
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