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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Leder
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail Sanity Check
I removed the "mailerid="Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158" from
within the <cfmail> tag.
Looking back through my code, I already had a cfmailparam message ID (is
this not the appropriate way to do it?):
<cfmailparam name="Message-ID"
value="<#CreateUUID()[EMAIL PROTECTED]>">
<!--- The @mail.#REQUEST.mailsite# EQ mail.mysite.com, for example -
corresponds to the same domain as the <cfmail FROM> parameter --->
Has anyone at Macromedia/CF actually checked if "Coldfusion" in the mailer
ID is a current mark of spam with major hosts and spam associations? If so
and it is, are they actively working with them to make sure it is NOT a
check for spam? (Or are major spammers using CF, in which case, quite
unfortunately, it is a good check for spam?)
Should this be reported as a bug?
Thanks, Mark
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From: stylo stylo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 12:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMail Sanity Check
I, too, briefly tried the Outlook lines and saw they were being IDed as
forged.
>>I would suggest adding a CFMAILPARAM to specify the message-id header as
one possible solution.
Then you would have two of them and be detected again as forged, no? Copying
spammer techniques is just not the answer here.
Obviously this is a very serious practical issue that needs to be addressed
and evangelized by Macromedia/CF. Are they aware of it? Has anyone at
Macromedia/CF actually checked if "Coldfusion" in the mailer ID is a current
mark of spam with major hosts and spam associations? If so and it is, are
they actively working with them to make sure it is NOT a check for spam? (Or
are major spammers using CF, in which case, quite unfortunately, it is a
good check for spam?)
Does anyone know what is being done on this by Macromedia/CF? -Or is nothing
being done? Mozilla had to do the same to get their browser working with
major banks and such. Surely Macromedia/CF can make an effort here,
otherwise all their improvements to cfmail are for not.
In the meantime, does anyone actually know if a blank mailer ID, or a random
name for it, helps?
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