Yes, and downgraded accordingly. Spamcop was once golden, then based
on some rather draconian behavior (like blacklisting a domain merely
mentioned in an email's text... The U.S. D.O.T. got listed for awhile
on spamcop, for example, as a GEICO spam listed auto recalls from
DOT.gov in its spammage) a lot of admins went from trusting them
implicity to not at all. Based on the list traffic I subscribe to
they seem to have cleaned up to the point where they're back on the
'useful' list, but nothing like their original sainted-mother status.
Since I have moved exclusively to Bayesian filtering during this
period blacklists are something I only read about.
> -good to know, thanks. But you see then the characteristics of cfmail DO contribute to
> a spam score, as missing headers - I think - are noted on many spam tests.
Yes indeed. I suppose you could argue that this is part of why there
is a cfmailparam tag... so that coders can write a proper email
message... and it should not be so that people think cfmail alone will
do the whole job. Blame MM for not getting the word out on that
score.
>>This is exactly what I was getting at above. Why in the world does
CFMX not include them then???
Cuz its the job of cfmailparam, and its up to you to figure this out
:-( See above. Bad karma.
> > How can it be detected if CF places the header properly, and its a
> > valid value?
>
> I mean that things like a fake but correct Outlook mailer ID are detected because there can be several checks and if they all don't match perfectly it is noted as forged, which is a death sentence.
Yup. Duplicate headers are bad. Pretending to be Outlook is muy mas bad.
> >>If on the other hand you had a sender of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > and the reply-to was [EMAIL PROTECTED] then yes, that would be a giant red
> > flag.
> -yes, I have been doing that out of necessity. Can't tell how bad the effect is, but a few bounces. Maybe others are tossed. Others go through fine. But I need to change that.
Ouch. As I'm sure you know you get a spanking for doing that. You
may have a good reason but the environment of today says you can't go
there.
thx for the css tips. Always looking for the grail there.
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--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
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