I must be missing something here, Robert. Isn't the situation you describe the text-book scenario for includes?

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That said, let me show you how you can run into a nightmare situation by using library items:

You work with library items, make all necessary changes, update all related pages and upload to the server. Now, another developer comes along who doesn't use Dreamweaver and who needs to make changes to the navigation bar you describe. This person is stuck with a big problem: he has to go page-by-page and change your code. This would be avoided by using a simple include file.

Am I missing something????

>> I don't see how using Templates or Library Items can be any faster than
>using includes from the beginning, but your mileage might vary.
>
>This is how I find library items useful at least for HTML sites:  I use
>library items for certain items I want to have consistent during development
>but know will change just before site launch. For example nav bars:
>
>Home | Products | About Us | Contact
>
>I place the library item on all pages. If the client wants to change "About
>Us" to "About" or change the graphics used for the rollover images, I change
>the library item once and the change is made on all pages containing that
>library item throughout the site. Just before launching the site, I go to
>each page, detach the library item and on the Home page, remove the link to
>home; on the Products page, I remove the link to products, etc.
>
>In other words, during the development I can easily keep the styles and
>verbiage consistent across pages and only need to deal with removing the
>links (so pages don't link to themselves) at the end.  Yes, I still have to
>eventually deal with each page individually but I only do that once.  Unless
>you're using some fancy server-side logic, you can't do this with SSI or
>cfincludes...and again, I typically do this with straight HTML (not CFM)
>sites.
>
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>Regards,
>Bob Haroche
>O n P o i n t  S o l u t i o n s
>www.OnPointSolutions.com
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