Not so much outlive anything but going back to topic. 

count number of sales reps/evangelisers for CF in Australia
count number of sales reps/evanglisers for Microsoft/ ASP.NET in Australia

Simple.. make a call to noth and see who turns up on your doorstep
first pluggin their wares.

I LOVE CF but Macromedia need to plan on Total Global Coverge,
besides.. I recon a few Macromeedies from London wouldnt mind spending
a stint in Oz ;)

MD




On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:59:43 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> wouldnt using the words "safety" and "microsoft" in the same sentence and 
> have a direct meaning to one another be slanderous statement? makes me wanna 
> barfffffff
> 
> thats funny, the perception that is.
> and thats the exact route i would take to fight it.
> running it on a windows server pretty much puts a target on your back, 
> wouldnt it be "safer" to run cfm on a linux server? Not to mention their 
> constant "updating" woes.
> 
> and then before u mentioned something about not knowing if what ur proposing 
> will even be around in a few yrs.
> 
> u mean like m$ did with asp? and im sure will do again with .net
> 
> coldfusion was here before asp (if i recall correctly) and it still here now 
> & it will be here tomorrow, i wouldnt put a mexican peso on .net out living 
> cfm. im sure the next version will be called ".shortNet" haha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date:  Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:45:49 +0100
> 
> >I'll post the results here once we're done. I guess our issues are
> >exactly the same as with any other company selling ColdFusion, customers
> >choose the safety of the brand "Microsoft" instead of using their brains
> >and comparing the results with the costs. That's how it works
> >unfortunately, it is easier for a manager to explain his manager he has
> >failed with a Microsoft project than it is with a ColdFusion project
> >(sounds ridiculous does it?). Then ofcourse we have the sales team,
> >aware of ColdFusion as a product but knowing the "M" name saves their
> >sales pitch, and knowing the "M" name enables them to raise prices. :)
> >..
> >
> >Micha Schopman
> >Software Engineer
> >
> >Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
> >Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
> >KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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