I'm not sure how many times it must be stated in this thread that using a framework will not prevent a bad developer from writing bad code any more than using an OO language like Java can prevent bad code. If this application that you worked on made an inefficient system that duplicates queries then they clearly didn't know what they were doing. Same goes for their use of included files, if the files were not organized well and named appropriately then no framework in the world is going to help.
Frameworks exist to make the life of a developer easier, not more difficult. If a framework isn't helping someone do their job, for whatever reason, the answer is simple: don't use one. For me, software engineering is always about learning new things and taking new approaches. The more I learn the better developer I become. >From this standpoint, I would say learning OOP, as well as becoming familiar with frameworks, are both very good investments. At best, one may discover some very useful things and add new techniques to their toolkit. At worse, one has added to their knowledge about programming and can now make decisions and assessments when they see other people's code using OOP or frameworks. Either way they benefit. On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:56:47 -0500, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>It is a big deal if it made your job easier and your project more > >>successful. > > My point is that it DOES NOT make my job easy. > Apparently, at least for the product I'm thinking of, it made easier for the > programmers to make an inefficient system that repeats 5 times the same query > in the same page, etc. And it is a commercial product. > And no, trying to find my way in a structure that includes 100 templates DOES > NOT make my job easier. > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:185662 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

