First of all,

As I LMAO at you, being a developer for HTML applications, Intranets,
Extranets and websites for over 10 years. I can say that every browser
on the market today is NOT capable of delivering our application to the
end user, we use specific IE only functionality and it works. We will
not remove any of this to run it under Firefox because our application
is what is making us over $200K per application, because we can do what
others can not.

This forces people to use IE on these intranets, but if the client wants
the application to run then it has to be IE or nothing.

Now before you Laugh again, think about what you're saying. I am not
saying that IE is the best thing since sliced bread, I am not saying
that I like IE over anything else, I am saying that IE is the only
browser that will run our application at the moment.



-----Original Message-----
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 6 December 2004 8:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SOT: Browser Stats (stirring the pot)

are u serious??? LMFAO!!!

"we" don't use it as a standard, you may but surely don't include me
wait till u start to make compliant wrbsites then say that.

its more like ppl use ie because they don't know any better or they
don't know they have "better" choices.

its funny u say this because i read an article where steve balmer said
like a week ago that m$ wont add "enhancements" because their customers
dont want them. WHich more than likely isnt the case, its more like they
dont know that they can have a better browser experience without ie. I
remember that i used to think that i would never use say, tabbed
browsing..... until i tried it, now i cant live without it.


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Andrew Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:37:26 +1100

>Not to mention that we use IE as a standard for our intranet systems we
>design, why because NO other browser is capable of delivering the
>content enhancements we need in the browser, and that is what will make
>IE remain strong...
>
>Regards,
>Andrew Scott
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mayo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, 6 December 2004 3:19 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: SOT: Browser Stats (stirring the pot)
>
>I maintain / have access to the logs of about 15 sites. The commercial
>and
>financial ones all have MSIE above 92% and holding. The purely
financial
>ones are 95%+.
>
>The one pure art site (photography) has MSIE at 65%, and an awful lot
of
>unknowns. Mac O/S is about 25%.
>
>IE will remains strong until tech departments replace IE with Opera or
>Firefox. The sad thing is I  inadvertently help IE remain strong. I use
>IE a
>lot because I need to know how IE renders my client's sites.  I love
>using
>Opera but I need to know how they view the web. The end result is my
>usage
>helps pad IE's numbers.
>
>Gilbert Midonnet
>GLM Designs
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:55 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: SOT: Browser Stats (stirring the pot)
>
>
>Apache puts out a lot of security patches. Those don't get as much
>press as IIS. I might be hard to say whether Apache or IIS gets more
>patches. My gut feel is that Apache makes patches available faster
>than Microsoft does for IIS but, again, no hard evidence on my part...
>
>On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 18:05:47 -0800, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That whole "its used more so there is more exploits for it" argument
>> is one of those ones I just ignore. Apache is the most used web
>> server, but there are far more IIS exploits - why... because Apache
is
>> better software.
>
>
>
>
>
>



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