so whats ie got that the others dont that make it so magically special? (besides bugs & holes?)
do u think its just an accident that M$ doesnt make their browser follow the guidelines by w3c? I think not, just follow the monopoly highway and u'll have your answer. so while everyone says this and that what i have noticed is that we have all these problems with cross browsers because m$ is too "good" to have to follow the guidelines which only help us all. and they arent gunna change a damn friggin thing until we make them. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Andrew Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:24:13 +1100 >First of all, > >As I LMAO at you, being a developer for HTML applications, Intranets, >Extranets and websites for over 10 years. I can say that every browser >on the market today is NOT capable of delivering our application to the >end user, we use specific IE only functionality and it works. We will >not remove any of this to run it under Firefox because our application >is what is making us over $200K per application, because we can do what >others can not. > >This forces people to use IE on these intranets, but if the client wants >the application to run then it has to be IE or nothing. > >Now before you Laugh again, think about what you're saying. I am not >saying that IE is the best thing since sliced bread, I am not saying >that I like IE over anything else, I am saying that IE is the only >browser that will run our application at the moment. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, 6 December 2004 8:22 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: SOT: Browser Stats (stirring the pot) > >are u serious??? LMFAO!!! > >"we" don't use it as a standard, you may but surely don't include me >wait till u start to make compliant wrbsites then say that. > >its more like ppl use ie because they don't know any better or they >don't know they have "better" choices. > >its funny u say this because i read an article where steve balmer said >like a week ago that m$ wont add "enhancements" because their customers >dont want them. WHich more than likely isnt the case, its more like they >dont know that they can have a better browser experience without ie. I >remember that i used to think that i would never use say, tabbed >browsing..... until i tried it, now i cant live without it. > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Andrew Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:37:26 +1100 > >>Not to mention that we use IE as a standard for our intranet systems we >>design, why because NO other browser is capable of delivering the >>content enhancements we need in the browser, and that is what will make >>IE remain strong... >> >>Regards, >>Andrew Scott >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: mayo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, 6 December 2004 3:19 PM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: RE: SOT: Browser Stats (stirring the pot) >> >>I maintain / have access to the logs of about 15 sites. The commercial >>and >>financial ones all have MSIE above 92% and holding. The purely >financial >>ones are 95%+. >> >>The one pure art site (photography) has MSIE at 65%, and an awful lot >of >>unknowns. Mac O/S is about 25%. >> >>IE will remains strong until tech departments replace IE with Opera or >>Firefox. The sad thing is I inadvertently help IE remain strong. I use >>IE a >>lot because I need to know how IE renders my client's sites. I love >>using >>Opera but I need to know how they view the web. The end result is my >>usage >>helps pad IE's numbers. >> >>Gilbert Midonnet >>GLM Designs >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:55 PM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: Re: SOT: Browser Stats (stirring the pot) >> >> >>Apache puts out a lot of security patches. Those don't get as much >>press as IIS. I might be hard to say whether Apache or IIS gets more >>patches. My gut feel is that Apache makes patches available faster >>than Microsoft does for IIS but, again, no hard evidence on my part... >> >>On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 18:05:47 -0800, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> That whole "its used more so there is more exploits for it" argument >>> is one of those ones I just ignore. Apache is the most used web >>> server, but there are far more IIS exploits - why... because Apache >is >>> better software. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186397 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
