Hi Jim,

> > Most opensource initiatives are build by developers without any usability
> > aspects, and I must say.. eclipse isn't one of them. The program runs
> > smoothly, it is rock solid stable, has a working treeview, and the memory
> > footprint for a Java application is extremily low. I have no other words
> > to say, "thumbs up! it is truly an amazing product". If it would cost me
> > money, I would have payed for it for sure no doubt about it.
> 
> Well then IBM must have really f'd it up.

They did indeed. They are also using eclipse 2.1 as the base for WASD.
I have to use WASD every day, and it sucks in a horrid way. It should
not even be considered the same family as eclipse 3.x

> I was going to try Eclipse, but then we were forced to start using "Web
> Sphere Developer's Studio 5" (based on Eclipse).  It's the most unusable
> software I've seen since "Lotus Notes" (and that's saying something).
> 
> Even without the virtual server's running it consumes several meg of memory
> (and triples that when the server is running) and is a 1.5 Gig install.

I have to reboot 2 times a day just to keep it running. Its CVS stuff
it totally broken, and it just does insane things. I can't wait for
them to base the new one on 3.x... It will be welcomed by a great many
people around the office.

> What a freaking nightmare beast.
>
> But the bottom line is apparently I'm wrong in judging Eclipse via through
> that lens?

Yes - don't think of them as the same product. I started using eclipse
3.x first, then I had to start using WASD and I thought it would be
great as I knew eclipse yadda yadda... they are not even close to the
same in speed and usability.

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