Hi Dave, The Unicode issue existed when 5.5 was released, it is not a flawed comparison, it is demonstrative of my point about 'commercial' support, I used it because it happened to be on my mind.
When I mentioned the community, I was thinking back to sitting a table at lunch at MAX 2004 listening to a group of developers give DW a hard time and asking for DW to have some of the functionality that made HomeSite superior to a Macromedia representative. Further, that commentary was driven by various comments by a group of over 50 CF developers in my area, many of whom use DW but would rather use HomeSite. I have submitted feature requests, the challenge is that DW is not a coder tool, it is a designer tool. They have made significant changes in the design area of the IDE, very nice changes to be sure. But there's been marginal real focus on the needs of the hand coder. I recognize that there probably won't be another HomeSite, however my commentary is intended to elicit response and be visible to MM. If it turns out that my assessment of dislike in general for DW for CFers is incorrect, then I learn something :) If not, maybe MM will hear this time, or we'll roll our own and stop looking to MM for that solution. Either way could be an eventual win. - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia > You are correct that support is currently dependent on > goodwill, but I'm fairly confident that when something is > broken in Dreamweaver, you will still be in the same boat. If > they can't offer a work around for you, MM most likely will > not do an update just for your problem. > > Case in point, HomeSite doesn't support Unicode properly. > MM's solution is to edit in notepad and no longer save from > HomeSite when the BOM needs to be set to Unicode(ref: > http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=t > n_19059 ). I'm not entirely sure that kind of resolution > could be considered superior support. I think this is a flawed comparison. Homesite is essentially a legacy product. Dreamweaver is not. > The ColdFusion community, in general, has repeatedly told MM > that they aren't satisfied with the DW solution for CF > development, and has repeatedly asked for HomeSite+ to be > improved and built upon, and MM has not done that, but > instead has not released a major version in roughly 6 years, > including not fixing issues like the above. Is this really accurate? Who makes up this community exactly? I ask this because I know plenty of CF developers who are using Dreamweaver and are happy with it. I don't necessarily think this list is representative of the "CF community". Most CF developers I know aren't on it, for one thing. > Alternatively they could add all the features of HomeSite to > Dreamweaver and make it work like HomeSite in certain areas > (divided folder/file view for example? support for CVS > possibly? How about SCCM support? ) And then we'd also be > better off. But instead we get neither, a gimped DW for a > HomeSite replacement, or a gimped HomeSite in various areas > (Unicode support), that isn't moving forward. Have you submitted feature requests for these things? I admit that I've been occasionally frustrated by some Dreamweaver features - I'd really like to see a standard query builder, for one, and have asked (and will continue to ask) for this over and over again - but they have been responsive on other issues. I don't think there will be any significant revisions of Homesite, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| All-in-one: antivirus, antispam, firewall for your PC and PDA. Buy Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=60 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:190271 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
