Everyone is throwing around this idea that Coldfusion is just as "free" as PHP...but the fact is that Coldfusion cost more to the PHP to the shared hosting person. I can get a good solid PHP host for under $10/month ($7.95 @ crystal tech if i recall). Point me to a reliable CF hosting company that offers this...
Adam H On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:17:45 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok first of all, i know you all have a hard time with how I write and I > appologize for that. Most of the day I spend talking to my nephews and neices > who range from 2/ 1/2yrs to 12 yrs and thats how they can understand(im & txt > messaging), so its habit, plus i'm a really BAD typer! So after this message > I'm going to bestbuy to get Beavis Macon teaches typing! > and I promise too try better :) > (3 medical degrees, you'd think I would do better!) > > "Art school sounds like a bad place to learn about programming." > yeah Dave they are BUT this kind of thinking is what kills coldfusion! > > Sure it's a bad place to learn how to build a full out application. But lets > take a graphic artist for example. Most of them do their courses in photoshop > and illistrator but then they also take flash courses. So they learn how to > make this nifty lil flash sites which contain a contact page, so then they > learn enough php to send the email. Last time i checked sending an email from > cfm was a bit easier than php. (remember when we had to use matts mail in cgi > from matts scripts archive haha) > > ok so you say big deal! > well it is a big deal because from now on they will most likely end up using > php when it could be coldfusion! > And i know we all get along so well with the graphics ppl but what I see is > that these graphics ppl(people) are finding it very difficult to find a good > job so they start to learn programming and where do they go? (hint php) why? > because they have some familiarality with it and they think its the "free" > answer. > > Now contrary to what mischa says, not everyone builds enterprise sized apps, > not everyone has their own server and certainly not everyone has a background > in C. I'd assume that if you asked most php developers what C is that they'd > say its the letter thats between B and D. And if you did have a background in > C wouldn't you really most likely got to .net anyways? > > There are a ton of php developers of course but how many are actually doing > prodjects that are "small"? > > I don't have any concrete numbers but i would say a big majority of ppl that > use php use it for very small things (sending emails, basic database > manipulation, etc..) so I think those numbers about users really does lie. > There are some ppl that do great things with php but a majority are just > novice users who use it because its "free" or because they can just plug in > phpbb or an image gallery app or phpnuke, etc.... But mostly cause they are > just uninformed. > > We can fight about this all we want but really it comes down to this, all > these hundreds of thousands of ppl that use php cause its "free" and are on > shared servers just dont know that to them and a majority of their clients > that coldfusion is just as free, period!! They just don't know! > > ANd honestly, if you were a newbie again which would be easier to learn and > understand? Course ppl are different but there is a reason why cfm is still > around................. > > ---------------------------------------- > From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:52 AM > To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown > > > ... and he says well in art school they tell u that > > coldfusion is really expensive. > > Art school sounds like a bad place to learn about programming. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193848 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
