I never said they needed to. I'm merely pointing out that competition for mindshare apparently is forcing them to, if they want to stay in that market (free or not).
And regardless of which browser you prefer, this is a good thing. Let's not forget it's a free product because Microsoft made it so (more or less). Your inference from my statements is incorrect, both of which are factual to the best of my knowledge. I don't care if they provide an upgrade (I use FireFox predominantly), I merely think it is good that they are. - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) What I'm getting at is that I agree with you on the point that business will drive the need to improve a product. What I don't agree with is the notion that MS or any other company needs to provide free upgrades to their product on an unlimited basis, for any and all products that are still being used. I get that from: "Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased improving their browser beyond the barest minimum." And "They had no plans to upgrade it without attaching it to an OS, which of course can't be applied to anybody not running that OS." That's all I'm getting at. :-) - Matt Small -----Original Message----- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) I'm not entirely sure how your comments apply to my observations. Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased improving their browser beyond the barest minimum. FireFox is beginning to penetrate the market again. Microsoft is now reversing their stance and improving their browser without waiting on an OS (notice that Firefox isn't tied to an OS? That's the way it all started, remember?). I think it's a good thing. - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no money and have no competition. I suspect most companies would do the same. The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS, just as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5? Would you go back and add features to your already existing websites for free? MS already has in place a plan for upgrading bugs, and does so regularly. What is it that you're looking for? - Matt Small -----Original Message----- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) They had no plans to upgrade it without attaching it to an OS, which of course can't be applied to anybody not running that OS. That is exactly what I meant by apathy due to lack of competition. I also suspect the content of the update will be in part driven by the competition. - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) "...this simply demonstrates that without a significant threat to mindshare, MS will not improve IE." That's an incorrect statement. MS already had plans to upgrade it, although at a later date and in a newer product. - Matt Small ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:194956 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
