> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:55:38 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just heard this on another list:
> >
> > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5577263.html?tag=nl.e589
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/feb05/02-
> 15RSA05KeynotePR.asp
> >
> 
> I wouldn't get your hopes up as a developer for anything special. If
> you read the article, here are the parameters of the next version:
> 
> 1) Will run only on Windows XP with SP2 installed

Many of the underlying OS improvements that would drive a release are only
being planned for XP sp2 - however MS has said they're considering a
Windows2000 release as well.

My inference in all of this is that MS was only going to release IE 7 in
Longhorn and were leveraging many features of the new OS (the underlying
"sparkle" tech and others).

Also remember than Longhorn was originally planned to be out what, 6 months
ago?

So now they know they've got at least another 10 months.  So they're
releasing pieces of the new OS.  Many of the those pieces, I think, while
not specifically IE-related may take advantage of some of the other pieces.

> 2) Will be security-focused (which will probably mean messing with
> ActiveX or something) with zero guarantee that any standards
> compliance features would make it in to the final release

There's never any guarantee, but it seems likely that they'll be leveraging
their work from Longhorn.  They've already in other Longhorn-related
contexts that the new browser would support "modern" standards.

However at the moment they're being told by customers that security is by
far the number one concern so they're focusing marketing and efforts on
that.

My predictions:

1) IE 7 will be surprisingly standards compliant.  Remember that since IE 4
IE has been very standards compliant - at least with those standards
available at release.  The problem with IE 6 is that it's three (or
four?)-years old and standards have outstripped it.  I would have liked to
see regular compliance patches, but so be it.

2) Although IE 7 will surprisingly standards compliant from the get-go it
will, as did all other versions, standards-compliance begin to stagnate
immediately.  Whatever bugs are in IE 7 will be there until IE 8.  I'm not
pleased with this, but historically it seems likely.

3) The IE 7 "beta" this summer will require at least one or two other beta
technologies to run.  It will run (as do those other technologies) on XPsp2
only.  This will cause no end of shouting and ranting on forums like this
one.  Here's a preview: "Why do I have to install 30 meg of .NET, 40 Meg of
new interface technologies and a 10 meg WinSock patch just use an already
bloated 15 meg browser?!"

4) Within a month of the beta's release somebody, somewhere will discover a
mechanism of installing "IE 7" on Windows 2000.  The technique will require
copying working files from a good Windows XPsp2 install however and won't be
commonly used.  However it will become a standard retort for people that use
dollar signs in abbreviations.

5) When actually released IE 7 on Longhorn will support something -- I don't
know what -- but something, not available on WindowsXP.  Also nearly all of
the real improvements (better rendering engine and such) will be quietly
included in a "service pack" release for Windows 2000 - my guess is that,
purely for marketing purposes, they'll call it "IE 6.5".



Jim Davis




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