Well, Tony, at least you can be absolutely sure of one thing around here...
You'll never have to guess at where you stand with people. I like that, frankly. I'd rather have someone tell me they think I'm an idiot to my face than run around behind me making annoying whispering noises. It's not like I don't already KNOW they think I'm an idiot... it's just the honesty that's refreshing. ;) As for the hidden costs of FireFox DHTML development, I tend to agree with Spike. Frankly, FireFox and Opera have some pretty awesome testing/debugging tools. If we could get them to merge some of the Opera tools into FF, we'd have the best browser in the universe. Laterz, J On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:01:34 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > may i never irritate the people on this list :) > > wow. > > tw > > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:50:40 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My god, I'm away from the list for a day and look all the trouble you > > people get into... > > > > Rock on, Dave... and tell me why you have all the fun when I'm out of > > the office? > > > > I looked at the site... not bad, kinda busy, a few JS errors, and they > > have to use popups or frames for data conduits for spoofing > > "background" posts/validations... it's all a matter of opener or > > target operations. I had a colleague at one point who was fond of > > putting a window object in a JS variable, then showing it until the > > body onLoad event had finished, then closed it. Actually, I downloaded > > cuteFTP the other night, and they used that exact same technique to > > spawn a download, then close the window that kicked it off. > > > > I once used the opener object to popup a sub-form with a single select > > for picking a zip code, then alter the content of the opener based on > > the choice. It was cool, a little like the Flash calendar control... > > but, not magic. > > > > And Googling for JS workarounds isn't a sign of expertise... I'm not > > ripping on anybody here, I'm just sayin... ya can't bs a bs-er. The > > real sign of a professional organization would be to fire, or severely > > discipline, the webmaster in question and publicize the result. Fix > > the errors in the site, and publish progress reports. Update the site > > design to consistent, modern methods. And be completely forthright in > > how your technology achieves it's results. > > > > Patrick, I kinda respect your willingness to walk into a firestorm... > > I'll really respect what followthru I see. That builds confidence. > > > > Which, as you point out, builds sales. > > > > Laterz! > > > > J > > > > On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:01:51 -0400, Will The Game <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.smartsurfonline.com/cfpowertools/ > > > > > > And PLEASE don't post with, "cf-community please". > > > > > > SHEEEEEESH! > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > -- > > Continuum Media Group LLC > > Burnsville, MN 55337 > > http://www.web-relevant.com > > http://cfobjective.neo.servequake.com > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198417 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

