Well, Tony, at least you can be absolutely sure of one thing around here...

You'll never have to guess at where you stand with people. I like
that, frankly. I'd rather have someone tell me they think I'm an idiot
to my face than run around behind me making annoying whispering
noises. It's not like I don't already KNOW they think I'm an idiot...
it's just the honesty that's refreshing. ;)

As for the hidden costs of FireFox DHTML development, I tend to agree
with Spike. Frankly, FireFox and Opera have some pretty awesome
testing/debugging tools. If we could get them to merge some of the
Opera tools into FF, we'd have the best browser in the universe.

Laterz,
J


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:01:34 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> may i never irritate the people on this list :)
> 
> wow.
> 
> tw
> 
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:50:40 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My god, I'm away from the list for a day and look all the trouble you
> > people get into...
> >
> > Rock on, Dave... and tell me why you have all the fun when I'm out of
> > the office?
> >
> > I looked at the site... not bad, kinda busy, a few JS errors, and they
> > have to use popups or frames for data conduits for spoofing
> > "background" posts/validations... it's all a matter of opener or
> > target operations. I had a colleague at one point who was fond of
> > putting a window object in a JS variable, then showing it until the
> > body onLoad event had finished, then closed it. Actually, I downloaded
> > cuteFTP the other night, and they used that exact same technique to
> > spawn a download, then close the window that kicked it off.
> >
> > I once used the opener object to popup a sub-form with a single select
> > for picking a zip code, then alter the content of the opener based on
> > the choice. It was cool, a little like the Flash calendar control...
> > but, not magic.
> >
> > And Googling for JS workarounds isn't a sign of expertise... I'm not
> > ripping on anybody here, I'm just sayin... ya can't bs a bs-er. The
> > real sign of a professional organization would be to fire, or severely
> > discipline, the webmaster in question and publicize the result. Fix
> > the errors in the site, and publish progress reports. Update the site
> > design to consistent, modern methods. And be completely forthright in
> > how your technology achieves it's results.
> >
> > Patrick, I kinda respect your willingness to walk into a firestorm...
> > I'll really respect what followthru I see. That builds confidence.
> >
> > Which, as you point out, builds sales.
> >
> > Laterz!
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:01:51 -0400, Will The Game <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > http://www.smartsurfonline.com/cfpowertools/
> > >
> > > And PLEASE don't post with, "cf-community please".
> > >
> > > SHEEEEEESH!
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Continuum Media Group LLC
> > Burnsville, MN 55337
> > http://www.web-relevant.com
> > http://cfobjective.neo.servequake.com
> >
> >
> 
> 

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