I've often wondered how many people actually subscribe to each list (talk and comm). Seems like the same handful post all the time, just wondering how many lurkers are out there. :)
Ray At 01:09 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote: >Scott, > >I enjoy the humor, *some* of the drama, and good-natured ribbing, >but some of it, profanity, abusive trashing other's works and sites, >criticism of someone who lets the community know of *free* tools >they've created and are inviting people to use and getting verbally >abused for it...a lot of that stuff needs to go... > >It's not good for the list. > >Glad you're sticking around.... :o) > >I'd be interested in knowing how many people sign up for the list >and how many people unsubscribe by the month...any chance >Michael might share numbers or just maybe some insight into >how what goes on here affects subscriptions? > >Rick > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:43 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: Unsubscribe by Scott Stroz > > >Rick, > >I was joking. The guy from smartsurfonline said it was easy to >unsubscribe to their mailing list. I was taking an unprovoked jab at >him. > >I love CF-Talk, the humor, the drama, the mud slinging...oh, yea, >there sometimes some good tech related stuff here too ;-) > >Scott > > >On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:25:42 -0500, Rick Faircloth ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From Scott Stroz: > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE > > > > Scott, > > > > I know you're probably unsubscribing because of the incivility > > shown on this list in the last couple of days...and it has been bad. > > > > However, there is a lot to be gained from monitoring and participating > > in this list. I would never have been able to get a business based on > > web design that utilizing Cold Fusion without it. It's not always this > > bad...usually, it's quite civil. > > > > Now, to speak the CF-Talk family...forgive my forwardness in speaking > > to the group like this, but this little "family" has begun to act like too > > many > > real families. Unable to carry on conversation without argument, >sometimes > > profanity, undue criticism, etc. Many real families fall apart when it >gets > > like this...the same is true for "online families" and I think, if my > > instinct is correct, > > that Scott Stroz may be the first victim of this CF family's misbehavior. > > > > We need to temper criticism of other people and, especially, their >websites > > and products. Criticism can be constructive and given in that light is > > usually welcome > > by the producers. But the kind of criticism, even lately of free >products, > > has been > > quite over-the-top. I think some of us need a vacation, or at least more > > sleep and > > less caffeine! > > > > In groups like this one, it's easy for the "inner circle" to become very > > familiar with > > each other and, like in all personal relationships, get a little too >relaxed > > with what > > we say. People who sign up for the form, because of their interest in >Cold > > Fusion > > and need for help, will quickly abandon this list, not get the help they > > need, and > > perhaps abandon Cold Fusion, itself. This doesn't help any of us in the > > long run > > and especially the person in need in the short run. > > > > Notice, I'm not using capital letters, so I'm not yelling at anyone...this > > is just a call > > of encouragement for all of us to be careful in our conduct and etiquette >on > > this list. > > There are constantly new people checking out what's going on that we never > > know > > are watching. We need to show them this is a place of help and comradery, > > not of > > heated criticism, petty sniping, and destructive argument. People show up > > here > > in need of help...not just with the code, but with the difficulty of >dealing > > with the > > situations they're in which drove here in the first place. > > > > Personally, I'm tough enough to stick out the troubled moments we have >here > > to > > get the benefits from this list. But for the sake of those who won't >stick > > around long > > enough to see what a great resource this list is, I encourage everyone to > > play nice... > > > > Thanks for indulging my concerns... > > > > Rick > > > > Rick Faircloth, > > White Stone Media > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:37 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. 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