I'll try and fix wills then post the code with some better embedding and stuff 
and will post it back.
 No worries, I think I am the king of hijacking threads lol.
 I don't mean to...........

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From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:07 PM
To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Search engine question 

Thanks, Dave...didn't mean to hi-jack the thread...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engine question

oh sorry lol
 I'll send that to you.
 I'll remake it in an earlier version of flash so you shouldnt have much
trouble
 gimme a few minutes

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From: "Rick Faircloth" 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:24 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Search engine question

> 1. open up flash

I mentioned earlier that I don't have Flash, so I was wondering
if you could give me your little 1x1 movie already complete?

I would need to start at step 5...embed :o)

And since I don't, at this point, use Flash in any of my sites,
it wouldn't matter if they had the right version or not, I would
still want to just send them on to the homepage of the site
from the "bot" page.

And I assume the bot page would be filled with keywords and
phrases, headlines, links, site map, etc?

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engine question

Sure
 1. open up flash
 2. make a new movie and size it 1x1 pixels
 3. in the actionscript enter this mass of coding beauty

 //redirect to home page is client has proper version of flash
 getURL ("main.cfm")

 4. export at the lowest required version of flash that you require.
 5. embed :)

 Then on the index page I would just properly fill it up with content in
VERY simple tags AND very COMPLIANT xhtml code. So that the bots can whip
right through it and gooble up all the content and give you a nice fat
score!

 By making it just basic code will help it load really fast and redirect
without the visitor seeing it but the bots will still get all the content.
The other thing to remember is to have a nice lil flash redirect script as
well in case the viewer doesnt have the required flash version, which is
more an issue now with the advent of flash forms requiring flash player 7.
 If you need that I have a great flash embed script that both validates and
shows a nice message if its not there.

 dave

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From: "Rick Faircloth"
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Search engine question

Hey, Dave...

Since I'm working on SEO with my clients, but don't do Flash,
would you like to share that "lil flash swf" with me to use, or is
that something you prefer to keep "in-house"?

Getting good index page content without blowing away the visitor
with "word overload" has always been a challenge.

One thing I do a lot of is have the client use "Announcements" on
the index page. That way, keywords and phrases can be repeated
often in the announcement titles and text, but because the
repetition is under separate announcements, the reader's
"information sensibilities" aren't offended. The reader can scan
the Announcement Titles and decide whether to read the Announcement
or not, but the spider eats it all... I let the client add
business-relevant
announcements and part of my service is to keep an eye on them and
keep them optimized with keywords and phrases that need to be
repeated frequently...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question

Do you like that nickname? haha

 Ok too start with you don't have any real content on the home page which is
what is gunna really kill ya. Also use your image alts to give more info
about the content because the engines will pick that up as page content.
 You also have enough java on there to run NASA ;)

Content is king and you don't have any there so I'd start to figure out a
way to get it there. One thing I used to do is make the index page and just
fill it with content and then under that have a lil flash swf that redirects
depending on if they have flash or not. And what that does is the engine
bots will spyder the pages content and since the redirection is within the
swf the bots won't pick up the redirect and penalize you. So when a visitor
comes to the page it immiediately redirects them to a diff page and they
never see the "real" index page thats been formated for content only.
www.denveralumnaegpb.org has that.
 Basically it's a win win, without really cheating :)

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From: Will Tomlinson
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Search engine question

> What's the url wilbergini?

abracadabra! www.winstoncourtsports.com

> I haven't read this yet but i threw it up 4 ya, http://www.jamwerx.
> com/HowGoogleWorks.swf

Preeesh! This looks like good info!

Will



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