" but to let schools teach CF, rather not" umm ok Micha, if they shouldn't be taught in school where should they be taught? In the bathroom at the local pub?
When are you gunna realize that not every person who uses cfm or java does what you do?? Heres the point Micha, ok we'll use someone I know because he's the perfect example of what my reasoning is all about. http://www.thisreason.com/ ok this guy went through graphic design school, as do hundreds of thousands of other ppl every year. Ok he doesn't really know anything about server side language other than how to send an email through his contact form, in which case the graphics instructor gives them a php script to use. So then he graduates and realizes that graphic designers aren't in too high of demand and the pay sucks but he starts to realize that he needs to also know some programming to get a decent job. And well of course he has "heard" that cfm is really expensive and at his school they gave him a php script, so were is he gunna go to? Why not make cfm available as well and then magic happens, it grows........ Ok so he's a newbie and sucks, well Micha even you were a newbie who sucked at one time but now 50 yrs later or whatever you don't �A) wanna give the newbie a chance to grow and learn or �B) help further the use of cfm, so what is your point helping? answer: nothing...... " OOP in a much more advanced environment then CF" Who gives a rats ass, the world doesn't resolve around OOP and a site wont stop functioning because the developer didnt use OOP. What do you think the actual % of sites is on the web that actually need that type of architecture or that ACTUALLY use it? " not every CF programmer can do Java." I'm sure that breaks their poor uneducated hearts :( FYI~ not every cf programmer needs to do java, I'm pretty sure the only one who "needs" to is you ;) hehe I mean you bitch about not enough people using cfm but then condemn anyone new from the rights to learn it, WTF do you want????? Do you even know there is a whole big world that exists outside of your head? seriously dude.... ---------------------------------------- From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:34 AM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? I disagree, in the least because the job opportunities for C, C++, C# and Java are much and much larger than those for CF developers. Second, with C# or Java you learn to work with true OOP in a much more advanced environment then CF will ever be. If you for example look at protection levels for every action you take, it will force you to think about the architecture of your application in a way CF will probably never reach. Even then, I don't know how this is in the US, but here university level schools don't really focus on the programming languages, but they focus more on managing a software creation process, writing technical and functional documentation, diagrams, architectures, release management, and then there comes programming. It is nice if students can get a copy of CF cheaper with a school license, but to let schools teach CF, rather not. Every Java developer can program CF, not every CF programmer can do Java. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205484 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
