" If people as a graphics designer find it hard to learn CF, too bad. I want to fly jets too" Well I could fly a helicopter when I was 14 so thats not a good comparison:)
I'm breathing just fine dude, obviously our different culture put a barrier between what we are saying. And you too need to read what I was saying. I never once said "cfm was to hard for them to learn" My point was that the schools obviously use php because its "free" and readily available, so what if Adobe makes cfml free and readily available to them as well? I never said they would be "teach" cfm classes but instead of them giving the students there email code in php they could do it in cfm, since it is easier and then these students would be more likely to venture down the cfm highway later and learn wherever. Now who said anything about making software?? The point was the lil tiny web sites then probably do nothing more than send mail, add, update, delete or show records from a database. You don't need OOP for that or make it "software" or add java to it. When these comparisons are run and all these schools and kids are using PHP for nuthing more than to send mail, how does that accurately describe its use? These same ppl would just as easily use cfm if it was "AVAILABLE" to them and then they use it down the road, it's simply human nature. Do you understand that there are actually web sites out there that are not enterprise level sites? That you don't need NASA code to run them? " That is why people make choices in their lives." yes and its up too all of us to show them what the choices are and what might be best for them instead of cutting them off because you don't understand that the web needs lil web sites as well. " Nobody is attacking anyone." I know and I am not attacking you either but as usual you write back with your "everything must be enterprise level" thinking and try to make a mockery out of what my point was, which certainly I might be dilutional and crazy but it makes sense to me. ---------------------------------------- From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:23 AM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Easy dave, take a nip of your water ... breathe in ... breathe out ;) Nobody is attacking anyone. If you would suggest that CF should be part of teaching in schools, on which education would you like to see it? Cooking? DTP? neither of them have anything to do with programming except setting up the microwave by pressing some buttons. If I ask you, where did you learn CF, should I like you did throw with bathroom, or local pub? I'd probably say, in practice on the job. I think a lot of CF developers nowadays just happened to worked with the language. Like I said, we have specific educations here, so proof me wrong. We don't have university classes for PHP, Java, CF, C#, .. what we do have are educations for Computer Sciences where they teach students how to manage, setup and complete a software project without even looking at languages. These are like I previously mentioned the education where there is a big focus on theory. Please try to read carefully what I am trying to say. The foundations for CF programming are too weak in terms of architecturing, which is one of the most importants aspects of software development. I think that is why CF doesn't have a chance in educations. For CF there are specific trainings, and training centers, hence the Macromedia Certified Trainer status. If people as a graphics designer find it hard to learn CF, too bad. I want to fly jets too, but I can't. That is why people make choices in their lives. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205489 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
