On 5/4/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > People seem to be in the habit of comparing Macromedia's stewardship of CF > to the "good ol' days" of Allaire. Well, Allaire had how many products? > One, > really, unless you count Allaire Forums and Spectra - both of which were > handled poorly, in my opinion. Oh, I forgot JRun - but neither Allaire nor > Macromedia really push that at all, they just used it to build a bunch of > other products.
Uhhhhh... Jrun? What's that? Heh... really, now, boys and girls... Flash/Flex/Central/FlashLite/Flash Mobile/FlashPaper and friends. Jrun/CFMX/WPS... Dreamweaver, and Studio MX 2k4 (which, btw, still includes, by special request, HS+ for us old-school hacks)... RoboDemo/RoboHelp and friends... Breeze... Breeze now has the footing to compete with WebEx and the like. CFMX now has the technological underpinnings to really give traditional J2EE and .NET a run for the money in the Enterprise. Flex has one competitor, which admittedly r0x0rs, and is free, which means that CF/PHP and Flex/OpenLazlo are decent analogies. These things indicate growth. These things indicate momentum. These things are signs that we're on the right track and really shouldn't be wasting time and resources bickering about front-page real estate at MM.com<http://MM.com>. I know I'm blending a couple threads here, but first of all, free CFMX would mean that those who chose BD over CFMX because of the free edition would have more choice, that I would have been able to do at least a dozen more projects than I have in the last year (duh, why didn't I use BD? Dunno... cuz I'm a nitwit I guess.) and those n00bs who use PHP cuz it's free would have their teeth ripped out. I know of several colleges that offer CFMX classes as electives, not part of a CSci program, and that's a fine idea. I never had a CS class in my life... and I've had to struggle a lot. But, in point of fact, it all comes down to market penetration, leverage, and money. As for the screen real estate issue at MM.com... I seriously think that to proclaim to the world that a lack of front-page real estate is a sign of MM's mindset is overreaching yourself a bit, dude... back up a bit and let them speak for themselves. It's a little pushy to be proclaiming what they think for them. Laterz, J -- --------------- ------------------------------------- Buy SQLSurveyor! http://www.web-relevant.com/sqlsurveyor Never make your developers open Enterprise Manager again. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205565 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

