On 5/31/05, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Paul Ashenfelter wrote:
> >
> > <anecdote>
> > True story. MySQL and Informix recently were competing for a contract
> > at a large enterprise (which I can't name). The *software license*
> > ONLY for Informix for their 96 (!) processor SGI Origin (maybe it was
> > 48 -- doesn't really matter all that much) was $1.2M. MySQL's
> > per server commercial license was $600 -- the same as it is for a 1
> > CPU Dell 750 server.
> > </anecdote>
> >
> > Obviously Informix would have to bring about 1.2 million dollars of
> > extra value to the project to displace MySQL. This is obviously a bit
> > of an edge case as far as comparisons go
> 
> Not at all. Oracle is $4K per CPU for standard edition. Only when
> you have more then 4 CPUs in your organisation, you are not
> allowed to run standard edition and you have to get Enterprise
> Edition. That is $40K per CPU. Add some extra GIS, OLAP or
> clustering features at $10-20K  per CPU and you easily spend $60K
> per CPU. Redundant production servers at 2 CPUs, staging
> environment, all processors double core (double pay) and you are
> out $700K. And that is basically for 3 dual CPU systems.

You're right on -- and it's not all that different for MS-SQL with the
Enterprise Edition costing 25k/processor plus additional for the
enterprise Windows server, clustering addons, and the like. Or for DB2
which tends to be somewhere between the MS and Oracle in pricing.

And all this gets worse (especially with Oracle) when dual+ core
single chips start shipping. While MS currently is treating a
dual-core processor as a single processor, Oracle isn't. So that quad
processor server with 4 cores per chip is... 16 Oracle processor
licenses.

Of course in a large scale MySQL deployment, you're *probably* buying
a $10-30k support license and paying for Red Hat Enterprise -- though
the nice thing is that you aren't *required* to pay for those things
unless you need/want them.

No, I meant the edge case was purely a ridiculous number of processors
on what's effectively a supercomputer (data warehousing project) ;)
Let's see what Oracle on 96 processors costs :) Which is much more
likely on a mid-range Sun box running multicore chips in the coming
year or so.
 
> At a 3-year write-off, how many DBAs can you hire for that money?

It depends... Oracle DBAs or MySQL DBAs? ;)

-- 
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
(blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com
(email) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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