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I prefer the [Cf-Talk] as the suffix.
Robert
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From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] OT: Subject lines
Would a special header line for filtering be better for people? My results
from this is that:
prefix blocks the subject, obscures it and gets really monotonous
suffix also makes the subject look bad and can be cut off in long
subjects.
> I would have thought that visual filtering is a little old-fashioned... ;)
>
> I can appreciate that people might want CF-Talk somewhere in the subject
for
> filtering purposes in case the email address changes, or it comes from a
> different from address. However, isn't visual filtering just a wee bit
> pointless...?
>
> Robert Everland wrote:
> >
> > Actual putting them at the end serves no purpose. I would rather not
have
> > them at all instead of having them at the end. At the fron they are
> > beneficial becuase they are all near the same place. At the end I have
to
> > look for it, why bother.
> >
> > Robert Everland III
> > Web Developer
> > Dixon Ticonderoga
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:53 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] OT: Subject lines
> >
> > This was an experiment based on many emails that I've received asking
for
> > it. On the whole, I don't like it and others seem not to as well. In the
> > morning I'll switch over to having it at the end and see how that works.
> > This should satisfy everyone. As usual, comments are appreciated. :)
> >
> > > My point exactly.
> > >
> > > Not to gripe, or anything, but couldn't it be put at the END where it
has
> > less
> > > visual significance to the reader, but is still picked up by filters?
> > >
> > > How about it, M.D.?
> > >
> > > pan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: "David Cummins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > > Hey guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > How come I'm receiving all this mail with subject lines starting
with
> > > > > "[CF-Talk]"? Is this a new list policy? Its just that it adds
little
> > > > information
> > > > > content, and means I'm less likely to see enough of the real
subject
> > line to
> > > > be
> > > > > bothered opening the email.
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean it would be OK if it was something informative like [SQL]
or
> > [CFLOCK]
> > > > or
> > > > > something, but [CF-Talk]?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Agreed - this particular tag '[CF-Talk]' makes the subject line hard
to
> > read.
> > > > The list of current subject headers take on a numbing sameness when
ALL
> > > > are prefixed witht the same tag.
> > > >
> > > > Pan
> > > >
> > > > n.b. word to wise - if you try checking this new article subject
line
> > format
> > > > with test messages (a time honored and sometimes necessary cf-talk
> > 'feature'
> > > > :) ) there is a problem child out there in readerland who will
accuse
> > you of
> > > > rudeness and threaten to contact your "sys admin" - and she does it
too
> > ....
> > > > with
> > > > all of the same effectiveness as rope used for pushing a truck
> > > >
> > >
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I prefer the [Cf-Talk] as the suffix.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Robert</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Michael Dinowitz [<A
HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:25 PM</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] OT: Subject lines</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Would a special header line for filtering be better for people? My
results</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>from this is that:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2> prefix blocks the subject, obscures it and gets
really monotonous</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2> suffix also makes the subject look bad and can be
cut off in long</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>subjects.</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>> I would have thought that visual filtering is a little
old-fashioned... ;)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I can appreciate that people might want CF-Talk somewhere in the
subject</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> filtering purposes in case the email address changes, or it
comes from a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> different from address. However, isn't visual filtering just a
wee bit</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> pointless...?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Robert Everland wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Actual putting them at the end serves no purpose. I would
rather not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > them at all instead of having them at the end. At the fron
they are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > beneficial becuase they are all near the same place. At the
end I have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > look for it, why bother.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Robert Everland III</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Web Developer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Dixon Ticonderoga</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > From: Michael Dinowitz [<A
HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:53 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] OT: Subject lines</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > This was an experiment based on many emails that I've
received asking</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > it. On the whole, I don't like it and others seem not to as
well. In the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > morning I'll switch over to having it at the end and see
how that works.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > This should satisfy everyone. As usual, comments are
appreciated. :)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > My point exactly.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > Not to gripe, or anything, but couldn't it be put at
the END where it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>has</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > less</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > visual significance to the reader, but is still picked
up by filters?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > How about it, M.D.?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > pan wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > From: "David Cummins"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > > Hey guys,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > > How come I'm receiving all this mail with
subject lines starting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > > "[CF-Talk]"? Is this a new list
policy? Its just that it adds</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>little</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > information</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > > content, and means I'm less likely to see
enough of the real</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>subject</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > line to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > > bothered opening the email.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > > I mean it would be OK if it was something
informative like [SQL]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > [CFLOCK]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > > something, but [CF-Talk]?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > Agreed - this particular tag '[CF-Talk]' makes
the subject line hard</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > read.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > The list of current subject headers take on a
numbing sameness when</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>ALL</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > are prefixed witht the same tag.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > Pan</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > n.b. word to wise - if you try checking
this new article subject</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>line</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > format</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > with test messages (a time honored and sometimes
necessary cf-talk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > 'feature'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > :) ) there is a problem child out there in
readerland who will</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>accuse</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > you of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > rudeness and threaten to contact your "sys
admin" - and she does it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>too</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ....</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > > all of the same effectiveness as rope used for
pushing a truck</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
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