Thanx Barney once more again for your patience in answer questions like that.

MD

2005/8/11, Michel Deloux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thanks Barney. "Percieved development speed is governed by the
> methodology, not a framework.". Really great!
> 
> MD.
> 
> 2005/8/11, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I didn't quite understand your question, but I'll try and answer anyway.  ;)
> >
> >  Frameworks are just pieces of code to help you do "something" in your
> > code.  Fusebox, Mach-II, and Model-Glue are all structure frameworks;
> > they provide a skeleton from which to hang you application code, and
> > take care of the "linking stuff together" part.  You can have
> > frameworks that do other things like caching, entity persistance, etc.
> >
> > Methodologies are a collection of programing standards that might be
> > using a specific framework, following a certain design procedure (like
> > FLiP), certain documentation requirements etc.  Percieved development
> > speed is governed by the methodology, not a framework.
> >
> > Using a framework requires more skill to code (or at least more
> > knowledge - you have to understand the framework), but also makes
> > coding faster, maintenance easier, and aids collaboration between
> > developers.
> >
> > 100% separation between MVC is not really possible, in my view.  You
> > can get really close, but your view HAS to have some coupling with
> > your controller.  The model, however, can (and should) be entirely
> > abstracted away from the controller (and MUST NEVER touch the views).
> > A prime example is an app with flash and HTML interfaces.  Same model,
> > entirely separate from the C and V.  But the HTML C and V are bound,
> > and the Flash C and V are bound.  It's just the nature of the beast.
> >
> > cheers,
> > barneyb
> >
> > On 8/11/05, Michel Deloux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Ok, ok. It depends. Other question: framework and speed dev are the
> > > same thing? Or not? I believe(my point of view) that using frameworks
> > > make development harder to code. I'm right? It's possible to separate
> > > 100% between M V C?
> > >
> > > Thanx
> > >
> > > MD
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Barney Boisvert
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 360.319.6145
> > http://www.barneyb.com/
> >
> > Got Gmail? I have 50 invites.
> >
> > 

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