No, it only contributes to the fact that in the paid programmer world PHP is generally thought of as a language of 40-year-olds who live in thier parents basement.
-Adam On 8/12/05, Mark A Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All the proliferation of free scripts in PHP does is contribute to it's > reputation as being "cheap" and drive down the price that developers can > ask. Don't you konw how many CF developers own their own businesses and no > longer live with their mothers :) > > -mk > > -----Original Message----- > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:18 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > > Well I can safely say that almost everything I have ever gone looking for > doesn't exist in CF, but is a plenty in PHP/ASP. > > I went looking for Affiliate scripts for example. > There are tons of good ones for everything except CF, for which I found 1, > and it was not free. > I can say the same for things like forums, portals, community apps. > > This really isn't anything that needs proving, it is right there for anyone > to see. Feel free to go search for any of those things I mentioned and see > what you come up with for CF. > CF has some free tags and UDF's sure, but not much in the way of full apps, > and the majority of the semi-decent stuff is not free anwyay. > > > Russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Bramwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 August 2005 02:49 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Studio 8 announced > > Between Macromedia live docs, HOF lists and a few other sites I think CF is > fairly well covered. While it is sometimes helpful do you really need > millions of free and mostly useless scripts, whether it be php,asp,js, or > whatever. > > Michael B. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russ Michaels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:33 AM > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > > > Don't pick on cf developers. > > Eveyone else is the same, why do you think PHP has such a big community. > > Altho what does suck, is that no-one gives anything away for FREE in CF. > > Thus why we have millions of free PHP/ASP scripts and like 2 free cf > > scripts. > > There is only 1 free cf forum I know of, and ALL cf forums free or not, > are > > crap compared to the PHP/ASP solutions. > > > > Russ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 12 August 2005 00:44 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > > > would you like it to come with your name etched in gold on the cd and the > > box customized with your pic and have it hand delivered to your door and > > only include the features you want in it. And if they did and you had to > pay > > more than a nickle for it you'd still bitch about it. > > > > It was funny the other night at our cfug we were talking about how > frickin > > cheap cfm developers are, whining and crying if they gotta spend more than > a > > buck for anything and its so true!!! Most of you are even too cheap to buy > > one of Wills cfm shirts and show your support, I mean really, It's > PATHETIC, > > people be ashamed of yourselfs because this is what hurts our community. > If > > WIll made PHP or Flash or .crap shirts they'd be all bought up in a heart > > beat. Lets be real you guys make good money but you act so broke, come > > on!!!!!!!!! We figured in our our area (denver) that $45 an hour was > fairly > > low for cfm dev'r too make. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > > > I may whine about ms but at least I spent money on it and therefore have > a > > reason but this crap with you guys bitching about stuff and it not being > > free is really lame...... > > > > " but now it costs too much money." > > So you make multi-million dollar apps but can't spend a couple of bucks > on > > something that helps you make a living??? > > Or you cant take 5 minutes to download the plugins you want? btw~ doesnt > > rob have a package download for cfm? > > Thats pathetic period!!! > > > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > > "A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient > > capital to form a corporation." > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:31 AM > > To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > > > But does that zip contain a full IDE implementing the list I mentioned? > > I haven't seen one yet. When someone stands up, and builds an installer > > encapsulating this all you have a winner, but now it costs too much money. > > > > Micha Schopman > > Project Manager > > > > Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax > > 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- > > Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de > > interactie met uw doelgroep. > > Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer > > informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----- > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: dinsdag 9 augustus 2005 9:51 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > > > Installer? What can simpler than downloading a zip - unzip it, copy it to > a > > folder and click on Eclipse.exe - no reg keys, not added bloat. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 08 August 2005 20:55 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced > > > > The lack of a descent one in all installer is currently holding back > > Eclipse. People don't have the time to go through the entire process, of > > downloading Eclipse, downloading the Web toolkit, downloading the > > prequisites of that toolkit, downloading CFEclipse, etc. > > > > If they managed to put this all into one package, so that you get easily > > started with an Eclipse installation where you can edit > > xml,xsl,javascript,(x)html,css,cfml,php without going to that proces. > > And > > maybe it is there already, and I just did not searched good enough ;) > > > > As far as DW 8 concerned. For me personally the real good feature is code > > collapse, but I hope they didn't took the CFStudio/Homesite codebase for > > this functionality, because everybody who used it in those old products, > > knows that when you collapsed a large amount of code, scrolling the > document > > was a pain in the ass. So at least I hope that they did look at this > > "feature". > > > > I like the enhanced compliance tests showed in the demo on the MM site, > but > > for some reason I hope for more. Like that they > > - fixed the numerous issues involved with the treeview in DWMX > > - crashes when searching through folders with find & replace (and they > > occured on specific xml files) > > - showing the directory path of a occurence within search results so that > I > > might now which one of the 1001 index.cfm's in the results belongs to > which > > project. > > - step into, just like Eclipse has on folders > > - enabling selection and printing of the reference inside DW > > - fixing the lookup of selections on search > > - split code view, like cfstudio had > > - breakdown of cfc's in a project > > > > If they at least payed attention to the treeview they have a buyer, but I > > hope they improve the support of the product. I don't understand why there > > haven't been released more updaters for DWMX 2004. I hope they pay more > > attention to existing customers :) > > > > Micha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214721 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
