Yeah, CSS is by far the most superior method to giving yourself the 
biggest headache ever imaginable.  I've been doing A LOT of css research 
and I am still going to use a large table for general layout and then 
divs within that.  Don't get me wrong, css for styling is great, it just 
sucks for positioning.  I am still very hesitant about using css for 
positioning as it just doesn't work right in all browsers.

I look at big sites like mail.yahoo.com.  Those guys are doing some of 
the most advanced CSS I've seen out there, yet they still use tables for 
general layout because they don't want to deal with CSS positioning 
nightmares.

Want to further that headache, visit:
http://www.css-discuss.org/

enjoy!
Mike


Rick Faircloth wrote:
> Yes, tables do make sense for tabular data display...it's intuitive for me
> to think in terms of query rows and table rows...I just wondered if the
> CSS and Layers approach had some superior way of working with
> not just general design, but, especially in displaying dynamic data...
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:29 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Can CSS and Layers Take the Place of Tables for Displaying
> Dynamic Data?
> 
> 
> one thing to bear in mind is that tables are NOT inherently evil. even in a
> CSS world, they serve a purpose (to display tabular data).
>  prior shortcomings in browsers meant that they were used for layout, which
> is what you want to move away from when you move towards CSS.
>  Since you mention displaying column headers and then the query data, it
> does sound like you want to output your data in a tabular fashion, which
> would be a appropriate use for tables.
> 
>  On 9/9/05, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Hi, all...
>>
>>I've always used tables to display my data from queries.
>>
>>Now, I've begun to be interested more in using CSS and Layers.
>>
>>The first question I have is how would one display data from queries
>>if not by using the top row of a table as the column headers and then
>>looping through the query, displaying the data for each query row in
>>each table row?
>>
>>That approach makes perfect sense to me, but I don't know enough
>>about CSS and Layers to know if you have to (or if it's preferable) to
>>use a table for data display even when using CSS and Layers?
>>
>>Also..a table will expand vertically to accomodate more data...will a div?
>>
>>Anyone have any input to offer on the approach to presentation?
>>
>>If the answer to these questions and the overall approach is positive
>>to using CSS and Layers for display, then I'll continue to study the
>>tutorials,
>>etc., that I find to learn CSS and Layers...
>>
>>Rick
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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