Dan:

That may be...but the fact of the matter remains that I personally had
put ServU on my machine, and shortly thereafter was hacked.  Found a
ridiculous amount of porn (really really bad porn...the worst porn I
ever spent 20 straight hours watching) on my machine (along with the
aforementioned accounts created with god-like permissions on drives
A-Z).

Now, I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a network guy/system
administrator.  Could I have set it up in an insecure manner?  Sure. 
It's possible.  But I've also used bulletproof, IIS's FTP (bleh), and
filezilla...all with no issues (that I'm aware of, at least) :)

So in my mind, regardless of what I've read...the problem was Serv-U.

However, this was roughly 4 years ago.  If new versions are more
secure, that's fair enough and a perfectly valid answer.  But that's
the answer I would expect instead of being presented with the question
of "how is using an application that's popular among the hacker crowd
negative?".


On 10/10/05, Dan G. Switzer, II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charlie,
>
> >If I have the choice of 'product A' or 'product B', and product A is
> >documented as being overwhelmingly targeted by hackers, I think that
> >should be a factor in my decision.  But hey, to each their own and
> >all.
>
> I think you may be misreading some of the Serv-U quotes. It's not "targeted"
> by hackers, but hackers commonly use builds of Serv-U v2 once they have
> compromise a server so they can FTP in to the server.  It's not that they
> compromise Serv-U (although there have been security holes found in some
> older versions,) it's that they would install a copy of Serv-U to use as a
> way to access the server.
>
> There's a difference between hackers using an application and exploiting the
> application. The reason Serv-U became so popular to use as a "backdoor" was
> because early versions of Serv-U only needed an INI file (no installation,)
> it left a very small memory footprint and was pretty easy to hide a process.
> Not to mention, it was such a popular FTP server that it might often go
> overlooked if found, because admins are used to seeing it installed on their
> servers.
>
> In my experience, I've found Serv-U to be really secure in the past.
> Granted, as the program has grown, so have the potential for security holes,
> but Rob's always been good about patching problems quickly.
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
> 

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