I can deploy .NET or PHP for how much? Zip... zero... Nadda. The cost of the server is the only real hurdle that stops CF from overtaking the web development world. And you're right about support in that it's too many levels before anything truly helpful come to light.
Cheers, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 2, 2005 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [SPAM : 8.1] Re: Rumors from Max... I have never been a big fan of open source, I always preferred having a company to call for support. But that possibility vanished with Allaire. Since MM owned CF, you have to get out your creditcard just to speak to anyone. You then have to prove that your problem is due to problem with CF or a bug, and it's not your own stupidity if you do not want to get charged hundreds of dollars. There is no email support from Macromedia, you have to ask the community. So really, CF may as well be open source for all the difference it would make. I really want to find time to spend with Blue Dragon, because New Atlanta are more like Allaire, and at least you actually get support from them. -- Russ -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 November 2005 16:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: [SPAM : 8.1] Re: Rumors from Max... > Seriously. Do we really need to have a bunch of retarded posts about > the demise of ColdFusion....AGAIN! Hmm..I actually didn't see it as the "demise of ColdFusion"...I thought it sounded like a really great idea. Take something that's had the benefit of years of company development and solidity, and open it up to the rest of the community? Make money off the development front end (Dreamweaver, Studio, Flex) and use the free back end to power it all? Sounded pretty cool to me. I didn't *even* think of it as "the demise of ColdFusion". I mean, imagine if ISPs simply were able to install CF on whatever server they had and there was no charge? Remember, it's just a server product. There are a bunch of other server products that do pretty much the same thing (middleware) and they don't cost a dime. I think one of the main stumbling blocks in developing CF stuff is that you have to go find yourself a CF host, or buy yourself a copy of the software and maintain a server yourself. If it was something that anyone could get and install and run, I think you'd see a LOT more hosts offering it as just a standard server/hosting product, similar to the way PHP and MySQL are pretty much offered by *every* host on the planet. I think it'd rule. I don't have much confidence in Adobe in the middleware server space...call me skeptical. I just think the community has better "vision" than Adobe might have in terms of what may be best for the software going forward. It sure seems like they haven't been promoting it as a complimentary technology alongside of Flex like they *should* be... And yeah, it should've been posted to "Community". I started typing and the autocomplete just filled it in without me paying attention, sorry. If you want to move it over there, I certainly understand. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222949 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
