Tim,

Sarbanes Oxley is a rule set for tracking compensation of employees -
particularly company officers.  It does indeed specify a lot of requirments
for storage - but mostly of internal company information. CC numbers have
more to do with privacy of customer information - yes?

-mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Encrypt CC number and store in DB


If you work at a publicly traded company you need to look into Sarbanes
Oxley as well

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:34 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Encrypt CC number and store in DB
>
> I read a bit about PCI Data Security Standard and it doesn't
> seem to be a big deal. This article summarizes it:
> http://mkruger.cfwebtools.com/index.cfm?mode=alias&alias=cc.secure
>
>
> The standard doesn't even ask that you encrypt stored values
> - just the transmission of values (SSL)
>
> It really defines minimums.
>
> Baz
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:05 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Encrypt CC number and store in DB
>
> Just ensure you are 100% compliant with the PCI Data Security
> Standard, or you can pay the consequence.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 January 2006 15:11
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Encrypt CC number and store in DB
>
> Those are good points bobby, but I'm sure you could think of
> at least 1 valid scenario where CC numbers are required for
> later charging...
>
> What about using a CC number to see if that CC has enough
> funds and then doing the charging it later? Or better yet,
> what if you have customers who purchase very frequently? They
> DEMAND to have their number stored instead of typing it in each time.
>
> These are already 2 valid cases.
>
> Baz
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:23 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Encrypt CC number and store in DB
>
> Do you actually get people to give you their credit card
> information without them even knowing:
> a) how much they are going to be charged
> b) whether or not you charge them more for shipping because
> of where they live
> c) if what they WANT to order is even in stock?
>
> If so, you must have one user friendly, warm and fuzzy
> feeling generating site to make people feel that comfortable.
> (is it basket basics dot com?)
>
> Why would any of that information (in stock, shipping cost,
> shipping location, etc..., and a FINAL price) not be
> obtainable BEFORE getting the credit card number? If any of
> it IS unobtainable without a Credit Card number, it sounds
> like a flawed system to me.
>
>
> ....:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
> Bobby Hartsfield
> http://acoderslife.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephens, Larry V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:44 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Encrypt CC number and store in DB
>
> The best way is DO NOT DO IT.
>
> No I'm not just being sarcastic....but there should be no
> reason to do this
>
> [snip]
>
> Except - we don't know the final cost until the items
> purchased are packaged and postage/freight is figured. (And
> we make sure the items are actually in stock and not on
> order, etc.) The configuration (i.e., number of boxes) can
> vary a great deal depending on what is ordered (some things
> will pack inside others, etc.) and, of course, the actual
> charge depends on where you are shipping it (and keeping up
> with UPS and USPS shipping tables is no trivial matter).
>
> Larry Stephens
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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