I'm in 100% agreement with both. It's not that the message isn't "getting 
out there". It's "what the heck is this, and what do I need in order to do 
this stuff, and how do I proceed going forward if I'm a CF developer who's 
interested in following this?"

The whole "Flex" message right now just seems like a hard sell for something 
that nobody has convinced me that I need.

Sure. It's sweet. Looks cool. But like I said, the website and the "message" 
are really just hyper-filled with marketing, and not enough meat for me to 
sink my teeth into.

> Here!  Here!
>
> Show me the goods!
>
> (Not the goods Adobe will make money on,
> but the goods that I can make money on!)
>
> btw...I went to the labs site and couldn't even
> get the example apps to show...could be a problem
> on my end however...but don't see why...
>
> Rick
>
> > > Clearly a lot of people aren't seeing the messages so I'd be
> > > interested to hear opinions as to why this message isn't getting
> > > out there...
> >
> >
> > One thing that might help with folks like me, are some more
> > concrete examples.  Looking at Sean's post here, he used language
> > like "most" application would not need the full Flex server and
> > such.  But what does "most" mean?
> >
> > When I'm looking at it, I'm going "what do I need to do what I
> > need to do?"  And some clearer, more concrete examples of
> > application that can and can not be done at each level would be helpful.
> >
> > My $.02



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